Strange "worms" in TMY/HC110

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  1. s800

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    Only had one roll turn out this way, and I've been doing this for awhile. Highlights/shadows/everything has this strange, repeating pattern.

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    Thanks for any input. It's not grain. :smile:
     
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    To me, that is reticulation I believe.... Did you change to a cooler stop, fixer, or water rinse after development
     
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    I'm with Andrew and would guess reticulation from a rapid temp change.
     
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    Yes, another vote for reticulation. I've seen it happen, and I also saw a lot of it in school where I had a prof who did that deliberately as part of his work. Hard to do with modern films, but it still is possible.
     
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    Interesting, the only times I've had reticulation was with HC110, never with any other developer. I wonder if there's anything in the formula that would promote this occurrence.
     
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    I'd get this with HP5 in DD-X on occasion, but never with any other film in DD-X.
     
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    I have not had reticulation in over two years of use with HC110. Course I keep my temps dead on, 68F.
     
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    Interesting.. thanks for the input. I'm gonna chalk it up to not being careful enough with temperature then.
     
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    Henceforth, when this happens tell all and sundry you did it on purpose; that this is photographic art with a capital "A:" and that you be a photographic artiste!!:wink:
     
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    I had an interesting chat with a Kodak engineer recently who pretty much stated that the gelatin used in T-max films was much harder than normal films so you could process them in any temp with no fear of reticulation and they were less temperature sensitive.
    That said another vote for reticulation...
     
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    :DYou can use it for fishing!:D

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    That sure describes my old prof, hoo boy!
     
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    I vote reticulation too, but I would be surprised if the Kodak engineer said you could change the temperture greatly between the various fluids. I know that John Sexton develops at 75 degrees F; I'm not sure about TMY2. But he does it because he has trouble in the Summer getting his water temperature down to 68 degrees F.
     
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    I had it with Tri-X many years back: Kodak asked me to send the bulk-rol back for a free replacement.
    I kept it just for certain shots.

    Peter
     
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    That in itself won't hurt TMY because TMY/TMAX Dev is recommended by Kodak at 75 degrees IIRC...
     
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    At Rhode Island School of Design, perhaps? I swear, the photographic dinosaur in me makes me cringe at the ARTEESTES. A lot of it, methinks in my jaundiced O.F. view, is just being able to keep a straight face when slinging aft-end-male-bovine-detritus.
    In a slightly different context, I recall an episode in college. I had spent time in the college darkroom printing some informal portraits of a good-looking female college friend.
    I had a botched print which I had thrown in the trash bin. It continued to develop, fogged itself, and did a partial "solarization." For a reason I do not remember, I fixed it, washed it, dried it, and took it with me. Later, when showing the prints to my friend, she fell in love with the ruined print, had it matted and framed, and made me into a real artiste to everyone who saw the print. Go figure.
     
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    It might if your developer is 75℉ and your stop is 55℉
     
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    I guess I blew it from reading kodachrome64's post. I should have just said what you; wogster, said.
     
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    I'll print one of these and see what it looks like through the enlarger. Maybe it is art. ;-)
     
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    Sounds like poetic justice of some sort!

    This professor was from well before my time at RISD. He was somewhat well known for the reticulated look in the 70's. I won't embarrass him any further, his work does a pretty good job at that already.
     
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    This professor was from well before my time at RISD. He was somewhat well known for the reticulated look in the 70's. I won't embarrass him any further, his work does a pretty good job at that already.
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    Think of the trouble he might have saved had he just invested about ten bucks in a set of the Paterson doohickeys available about that time. A photo arteeste printed through them to get such effects. Not random, of course, but there they were all over the .
     
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    Definitely reticulation. I've ended up with the same "look" with Tri-X in PMK if my temperatures vary too much. Not a look I was trying to achieve at the time.

    Peter Gomena