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Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by JD Morgan, Nov 24, 2004.
Ya mean that stuff was too slow for yewz guys?
Dang you mutts is tough ta please.
How 'bouts if we crank the speed another stop?
G ... G ... Good results Thanks for showing us the results and nice touch putting the details on the pictures.
I am trying XTOL later this week....happy to try it!
My next post was gonna have 'Rodinal' in it just to get a response
I printed one shot at 10000 to 8x10 on Ilford cooltone, and as far as grain it was hunky dory.
These are just film scans from an LS-2000 at 1350 pixels/inch and 4x. Another one I shot with flash at 10000 ISO was smooth (grainless) at 5x7 on Agfa RC glossy.
Here is another from tests last night. The second is a 400x600 straight crop from the full size scan with no manipulations. All the others had just crop, resize, levels and USM. They are all saved at quality 8 jpeg from PhotoSlop 6...
I hope you didn't add that boa in Photoshop, JD.
Na, it's a real fake one. I didn't choose the wardrobe, I just said "I've gotta test some film, throw something on and stand over there." I forgot to add 'SUCK IT IN' -- guess I've been away from the 'garage' too long.
Small analog world, eh?
My purpose is to develop a shooting plan based on a set processing so I can shoot flash or not on the same roll. Shoot for the process instead of process for the shoot. The last two images (flash and no flash) were on the same test strip and received the same process.
I was gonna post the entire methodology later for those that need to test these speeds for events and what not, but the basics are:
Flash shot - F5 @ 6400 ISO, Matrix metered and -1 exposure comp. (12500 ISO). SB-28 on custom bracket set in TTL with comp. of -.3 and flash head at 45° with omni. I can see I need to adjust my flash comp. for less hot results (maybe -.7) depending on modifier, environment and distance etc. Lens was Nikkor 85 f1.4 @ 1.4 and 1/200.
No flash shot - All I did was turn the flash off, zero out the camera exposure comp. (6400 ISO) and change to center weight metering. Since the top (camera in vertical) focus sensor was at the eye, you can guesstimate the metered area (F5 was at default 12mm center weight circle).
Processing - XTOL stock - 68° 10.5 min agitate continous for first 60 seconds and 5 rapid inversions every 30 seconds thereafter. No stop bath, just running tap water at 68° for about 6 tank fills and empties. TMY takes longer to fix, I fix them for around 8 min. and then wash well. Run through Photoflo and hang 'em up.
If I can get them all (flash and no flash) to print straight using my super sharp Leitz Valoy II (much better than my Beseler 45 for 35mm) that would be great, but with wedding stuff (white dress and black tux) I would expect some to need split grade and other manipulations.
Too much java (liquid type) and fighting with disco apostles on another site this morning (wasn't expectin' turkeys so early) gets me ramblin', sorry.