Thank GOD I am not a leica user.....

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  1. gandolfi

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    Estimated 50-75k EUR... Not terribly extravagant for a 90mm f/1 ...
     
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    Why would the U.S Navy need a lens like this ?
     
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    Since WHEN has the US NAVY ever needed to qualify/quantify its "wants"? Since WHEN did the US Navy EVER need to "justify" them? ALWAYS!! BUT... since WHEN did US citizens ever DEMAND that??
     
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    It's probably soft wide open, so you're better off with a modern lens anyway.

    :D
     
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    Since WHEN has the US NAVY ever needed to qualify/quantify its "wants"? Since WHEN did the US Navy EVER need to "justify" them? ALWAYS!! BUT... since WHEN did US citizens ever DEMAND that??

    A gazilion dollars for a lens? So what? The American tax-payers are buying it and they won't bitch about it... or at least.. there will be no significant repercussions.........

    ETA: "Wide-Open" is in reference to American tax-payer orifices.
     
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    It doesn't look like you can even focus, it's girth covers the rangefinder patch window
     
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    I recently went to a presentation by Canon talking about their new EOSC300 camera. This is a new camera (both still and moving picture, digital, handheld), the camera itself is $16K, and they have made lens selection easy by making all of the zoom lenses at the same price - $45K each. This is for a piece of glass with no collector value, no cult status, just a lens.

    A unique, collector type cult lens should be worth much more!
     
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    Kinda defies the whole Leica stealth and portability thing. The lens probably weights three times as much as the camera.

    Emil/Gandolfi if you're really interested in acquiring such lenses there are some super high speed X-ray lenses that probably can adaptes to Leica mount and cost a lot less.
    It might only be a 65mm lens but it also only costs 290 Euros http://www.leicashop.com/vintage/oude-delft-6510-rayxar-p-5482.html. Or a 90mm lens for a mere 499 $ on the bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rayxar-OUDE...-Optical-Ocular-X-Ray-Lens-Unit-/200746172451. Thom A from the Rangefinderforum has adapted a Leitz 1.0/90 X-Ray lens for a picker to m mount the lens goes for about 800 $ on ebay. 75 000 is probably the Leicashop/Westlicht Bonus.

    Benjiboy they probably need the lens for surveillance of Radar screens or a General's wife.

    Dominik
     
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    Who among us has the courage to actually use a lens that costs $50 / $75k?

    I'd be so nervous that camera shake would be a real problem.

    Then again, at F1, I'd have some fast shutter speeds available, so...

    Sure is purdy, though.
     
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    I'm a Leica user, but even if I won the lottery I would have no need of a lens like that.
     
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    This will go perfectly with my NEX-5n. I just need two tickets. Winning Lotto and to Viena.
     
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    what is the top shutter speed of an M?
    Guess it would be ND time outdoors.
     
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    Well, it doesn't look to me like it would be soft.
     
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    Oh, it's VERY soft. We're Uncle Sam's worn-out bitches for sure.
     
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    Can one see though the view finder?
    Will the range finder work?
    Is there a separate view finder?








    I will stick with Hasselblad!
     
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    What, no LTM version?
     
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    The Navy would have used it for aerial surveillance most likely - no focusing required, it would have always been shot at infinity. It would have been mounted to a fixed position aimed out a window. Probably also used for night-time surveillance. And compared to the optics used to photograph high resolution terrestrial images from space, that lens would probably have been cheap.
     
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    The Navy would have used it for aerial surveillance most likely - no focusing required, it would have always been shot at infinity. It would have been mounted to a fixed position aimed out a window. Probably also used for night-time surveillance. And compared to the optics used to photograph high resolution terrestrial images from space, that lens would probably have been cheap.
     
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    Cheap for a branch of government that I watched push perfectly good helicopters into the ocean to save deck space. The military probably taught budgeting to the NSA.
     
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    They need it for "undercover" work when they "go to town" with the secret service on advanced visits
     
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    It should be noted that this is an auction price for a lens being sold as "collectible" 40+ years after original manufacture and purchase. This price very likely has no relation at all to the price paid by the navy.
     
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    I know darned well the US govt paid W-A-Y too much for such a specialty item... they always do. :wink:
     
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    But it was GSA pricing from the Las Vegas conference.