This is an evil forum topic...

Discussion in 'Camera Building, Repairs & Modification' started by gr82bart, Jun 13, 2005.

  1. gr82bart

    gr82bart Member

    Messages:
    5,271
    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Location:
    Los Angeles,
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I've been lurking here for a while, seeing what you guys are up to, watching, reading. Yesterday I downloaded a whole ton of designs and diagrams and pictures and stuff. I even went to the Bender website and out of sheer will power alone, managed not put anything into a 'CART'. Today, I printed out all those articles and diagrams and pictures....

    I'm an engineer by education so I'm like a kid in a big new candy store here...er...as a kid who had many a mechano set back in the day, I'm really more like a recovering addict that has found a HUGE poppy field. :sad:

    Art.
     
  2. medform-norm

    medform-norm Member

    Messages:
    863
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    So, Art, what are you up to then? What are ya'gonna do with all your diagrams and designs? Should we be worried? Should we seriously consider informing the local authorities we think we have a terrorist on board of the forum?

    C'mon man, tell us more....more...more...more...we wanna know it all!

    Cheers,
    norm
     
  3. Nick Zentena

    Nick Zentena Member

    Messages:
    4,679
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Location:
    Italia
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Well I found a speaker building forum awhile back and that's even worse I think. Every time I see the drivers piled up at the nearby surplus store I have to fight.
     
  4. Dan Fromm

    Dan Fromm Member

    Messages:
    3,979
    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2005
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Oh, come on, you shameless barter you. You'll be ok as long as you don't have the tools and skilles needed to make the parts as well as they have to be made.

    FWIW, I spent several ages designing the bracketry for my tandem rig. Simplified, reduced the amount of machining needed, ... There's no way I can drill plumb holes exactly where I intend. And there's no way I can turn the key part of coupler from any material. Don't have the tools, am out of practice, and wasn't a very capable machinist when I had access to a reasonably equipped shop and used it.

    So after I had the designs more or less done, I talked things over with Adam at SKGrimes and HE's drilling holes and turning the tube for me. Some jobs are better farmed out. You do what you're good at, let the good machinists do what they're good at. By the way, Adam made some suggestions about choice of materials and fine details. Of course I accepted them. Same thing happened the last time I had an, um, odd job for him.
     
  5. Ole

    Ole Moderator Staff Member

    Messages:
    9,284
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2002
    Location:
    Bergen, Norw
    Shooter:
    Large Format
  6. gr82bart

    gr82bart Member

    Messages:
    5,271
    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Location:
    Los Angeles,
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Yes. It's a conspiracy I tell you. It's like MSG in Chinese food. You just want to eat more an hour after gorging yourself. And all of you are evil servants tempting me ... err .... :tongue:

    This one's the worst: http://www.srv.net/~vail/camera.htm I mean he's practically charming you to build one! How could you resist? Look at his material list. Isn't that just an evil incantation?

    Then there's this German dude: http://www.artm-friends.at/rm/foto/ Look at those drawings. They're precision German drawings. Who could ask for more elegance in such a wicked design?

    Art.
     
  7. medform-norm

    medform-norm Member

    Messages:
    863
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    We've seen this website before too. Small note: .at means it's an Austrian website and the guy too is an Austrian! He might be sensitive about this 'small' difference...you should hear them speak, Austrians, it's another language all together from German! Amazing.

    But now we know what y'er up to, that's good. Plenty of people here willing to lure you to the Dark Side - eh - Dark Slide!
     
  8. MenacingTourist

    MenacingTourist Member

    Messages:
    895
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2004
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    You and me both Art! Just last Friday I visited all those sites and printed several pages of plans. I even went home late because I was so caught up in all of that and I never go home late on Fridays!

    I'm seriously considering buying that book and making an 8x10. Then I want to make something bigger! Of course I would have to make some film holders and I'm already making contact frames...

    You're right. This is just evil.
     
  9. mark

    mark Member

    Messages:
    5,261
    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2003
    I've been in your shoes, but I am lucky. The images in http://www.srv.net/~vail/camera.htm won't print on my computer. And the German dude's won't either. No temptation just extreme frustration. The german Guy's little tracked vehicles are pretty cool too. I am waiting for Jim to find a beat up old 7x17 back in a mine in Tonapah and list it on Ebay. Then the temptation will once again drive me nuts.
     
  10. mark

    mark Member

    Messages:
    5,261
    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2003
    So I don't P off the Austrians It should read Austrian dude, and Austrian guy.
     
  11. argus

    argus Member

    Messages:
    2,146
    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2004
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    His drawings are available in PDF format. Find them.

    G
     
  12. mark

    mark Member

    Messages:
    5,261
    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2003
    Shut up. I can't hear youuuuuu........NAHNAHNAHAHNAHNAH..I won't be tempted again, I won't be tempted again.......Forward the info to gr82bart..........NAHNAHNAHNAHNAH:D

    Actually, thanks for the info. My wife won't thank you but I will.
     
  13. papagene

    papagene Membership Council

    Messages:
    5,282
    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2004
    Location:
    Western Mass
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    Speaker Building

    OK Nick... where is that speaker building site... gotta know!
    That was one of my hobbies before the children arrived. I have been rethinking that sickness - er, hobby - again.
    Thanks

    gene
     
  14. Nick Zentena

    Nick Zentena Member

    Messages:
    4,679
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Location:
    Italia
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    I found a quite a few info sites. The forum is at:

    http://www.diyaudio.com/

    I've learned enough to do damage to my credit card-( I might just make that subwoofer and then try and figure out a centre speaker.
     
  15. Calamity Jane

    Calamity Jane Member

    Messages:
    159
    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2005
    Location:
    Manitoba Can
    Shooter:
    Large Format
    DON'T DO IT ART!

    First it's just a camera, then it's another. One thing leads to the other and before you know it you are up to your ears in LF.

    Building is just the start!

    bottom of the page: http://www.geocities.com/diannebest/