Trading a Hasselblad for Mamiya Rb/z67

Discussion in 'Medium Format Cameras and Accessories' started by Krzys, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. Krzys

    Krzys Member

    Messages:
    506
    Joined:
    May 28, 2009
    Location:
    Brisbane, QL
    Shooter:
    35mm
    Hasselblad 500C/m
    WLF
    Split image Acute mate d screen
    80mm planar + hood
    2 x 120 backs
    Yellow, Orange, Closeup +2, UV
    Various little accessories

    If I were to put this up for trade and ask for a Mamiya Rb or rz 67 what do you think I would be able to get? What is reasonable? It is just a passing thought since I really cant get into this square groove and the close up focus + larger negs is kind of tempting me.
     
  2. rwboyer

    rwboyer Member

    Messages:
    522
    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Location:
    MD USA
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    If what you have is in good shape I would say it is worth more money than an RB/RZ kit of similar nature - at least here in the states the RBs are a dime a dozen. They are fine cameras but... unless you have the RB stuck on a tripod it is unwieldy IMO.

    Get yourself an extension tube and be happy. Print whatever kind of print you want to print. 95% if all commercial work I ever did with my Hasselblads were NOT printed square. Although I do print a lot of my personal work square.

    RB
     
  3. mesh

    mesh Subscriber

    Messages:
    272
    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2009
    Location:
    Adelois
    Shooter:
    8x10 Format
    Hey Krzys - that's a really nice kit, and as a rough guesstimate should fetch around $A 1500 if it's a CF lens and in decent nick. I'd sell it first rather than do a swap - I think you'd find it much easier, and have enough left over for quite a lot of film ;-)
     
  4. lilmsmaggie

    lilmsmaggie Member

    Messages:
    336
    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    If it's any help to you, B&H has a similar kit graded 8+ for $1299 US
     
  5. Krzys

    Krzys Member

    Messages:
    506
    Joined:
    May 28, 2009
    Location:
    Brisbane, QL
    Shooter:
    35mm
    Its an old chrome planar, uncoated :smile:

    Im just thinking out loud. I have no real intention unless something really stands out, since I've been swapping gear around for awhile now.
     
  6. Donima

    Donima Member

    Messages:
    17
    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Location:
    california
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    I have both. The RB67 that i have is like new (fewer than than 22 rolls through it ) so longevity is not an issue for me. I use a 50mm and 140mm (both c lenses ) with it and both are extremely sharp. I can not tell any difference between them and my hasselblad lenses. I like the square format of the hassy a lot but also have no problem with the 6+7 format of the RB67. It is almost a square and can be printed that way if you wish. If you can find a clean example of the RB67 i say go for it. I prefer the RB67 pro S version over the electronic RZ series as they are mechanical cameras that can easily be fixed. Use the camera that you like the best and dont worry about the value difference. They are both great cameras! Don
     
  7. Venchka

    Venchka Member

    Messages:
    692
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2006
    Shooter:
    35mm
    Your Planar is coated. Just not the fancy T* coating.
     
  8. bdial

    bdial Subscriber

    Messages:
    5,459
    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2005
    Location:
    North East U.S.
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    As RB says, the Hasselblad kit is probably worth more than a similar RB/RZ 67 kit, at least it would be here, so in an even sort of trade you might look to get two or perhaps more lenses with the RB.
    If you think the rectangle would really fit you better, then why not? I once traded a Hasselblad kit for a new F3 and some lenses. I never looked back, at least not until a couple of years ago, and decided to cash in on the falling Hasselblad prices. I'd give the RB/RZ a good try-out first. They are quite a handful. But, they are well balanced and so massive that it makes them easy to handhold in a perverse sort of way. Though I'm not sure I'd want to do it for a day, or even several hours.
     
  9. Sjixxxy

    Sjixxxy Member

    Messages:
    395
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2004
    Location:
    Zenith City,
    Shooter:
    8x10 Format
    If you are into close-up work. the RB67 also has a nice feature where the exposure compensation needed for the bellows extension is listed right on the side of the camera for whatever point the lens is focused at. Very handy if close-up work is your thing.
     
  10. fschifano

    fschifano Member

    Messages:
    3,216
    Joined:
    May 12, 2003
    Location:
    Valley Strea
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    That's a tough call. Mamiya lenses for the RB and RZ cameras are right up there in quality with the best of them, so I don't see that as a real concern. Even the ones that are supposed to be dogs are better than good. I seriously doubt that lens quality would be an issue. Hasselblad prices have fallen a lot in recent years, but the cameras and lenses still command more than the equivalent Mamiya RB/RZ series gear. There's no doubt that the Mamiya cameras are bigger and heavier, but they are also more versatile. Closeup work is a snap because of the bellows focusing. There's no need for expensive additional accessories to do macro work if that's your thing. The same types of finders are available for both systems, so it's a draw there. The biggest advantage I see favoring the Mamiya system is the larger 6x7 negative that requires very little cropping to fit the standard paper sizes. The square negative, on the other hand, requires that you discard a lot of the negative's real estate to fit the rectangular format. Printing square for a 6x7 negative, by comparison, requires that you discard very little of the negative's real estate. The choice is up to you, of course, but I'd consider a trade if I could get a good body, a finder, a couple of backs, and at least two lenses for the Mamiya system in trade for your Hasselblad gear.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 29, 2009
  11. stradibarrius

    stradibarrius Member

    Messages:
    1,382
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2009
    Location:
    Monroe, GA
    Shooter:
    Medium Format
    Having owner both I sold the Hasselblad and the 80mm 2.8 and the 150mm lens becaue I felt tha the RB lenses were as good as the Zeiss. I also am not a 6x6 fan but that is just me and much better photographers love their Hasselblads. I sold my Hassey kit in very good condition for $1000 USD.
     
  12. Sirius Glass

    Sirius Glass Subscriber

    Messages:
    20,714
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2007
    Location:
    Southern California
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    OR you can get an A16 back and mask and shoot 645 with the Hasselblad.

    Steve
     
  13. CBG

    CBG Member

    Messages:
    894
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Shooter:
    Multi Format
    One more thing that made me look at the RB is the uniform filter size on almost all the lenses - 77mm. Keeping to one size is a real gift to anyone who uses filters. I hate having to lug around adapters and oversize filters with most other camera systems.