Trash-o-type

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  1. alexhill

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    I can't imagine that I'm the first person to be collecting what I've been calling 'Trash-o-types', but I haven't see any references to them on web so I wrote up the creation of one on my blog, but its copypasta below.

     
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    Those look neat.

    I used to keep them. Then I realized that that last thing I need is more crap floating around my darkroom, so I stopped. Every now and then, a nice one will catch my eye, though.
     
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    OMG, I'm upset by the thought of all of the masterpieces that I have unwittingly thrown away all these years!

    :wink:

    PE
     
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    Congratulations alexhill, you may be the first to admit it. :sick:
     
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    similar idea as with 'chemical painting'
     
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    needless to say they look much better in person. :wink: (I didn't set up my lights and polarizers to photograph them)

    2F/2F, I totally understand the clutter problem. I say to myself, how much space does an 8x10 take up? Next thing I know I've got a couple thousand prints chilling in boxes filling up my shelves. I know a lot of people who keep test strips though... So thank goodness I'm not that bad
     
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    I had been casting about for a good term for this process, if "process" is the word for it. I am hereby officially (?) adopting yours!
     
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    One more aspect of analogue that the digi folks are missing out on. :wink:
     
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    more trash

    I knew I had these somewhere, but it took time to ferret them out. I had posted them to the gallery a couple of years ago. I called them "Found Art", but I really like the "Trash-o-type" label
     

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    Wow, both alexhill's and sly's are quite beautiful!

    I'm a fan.
     
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    As someone who is also a mixed media artist, this has "collage material" written all over it! I need to find me some!
     
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    InkyAlchemy Do you have any examples of your work you could PM me? Perhaps I could be persuaded to mail you some. I'll be setting up a darkroom shortly at my new place so I should be discovering some soon enough.

    sly I am SO jealous of those. They are absolutely beautiful! What process are those from?
     
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    nice work alex and sly !
     
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    Those are really cool, thanks for sharing.
     
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    sly I am SO jealous of those. They are absolutely beautiful! What process are those from?[/QUOTE]

    Just straight forward silver printing. They're test strips that never went in the developer (can't remember why.... possibly I cut up paper for test strips and some never made it to the paper safe.... were discovered on the table the next time I had the lights on:whistling:). The paper is probably Ilford MGWT. They weren't fixed either, and have faded since they were scanned to share here.
     
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    If you did fix them they would lose those pinks and blues,to bad.My be ever changing Trash-o-type.
     
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    I'm stunned at the color they produced, Mine usually get the normal faint pink then eventually turn brown. In my experience, fixing them will cause the colors to remain permanent. (Now this is off of remembering what they looked like, and only over a period of 3 years)
     
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    The fixer will wash out all UNDEVELOPED halide silver leaving a blank paper with some stain.
     
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    True story, but trashotype as I described it probably came in contact with various darkroom chemicals including developers. I see no change during the fixing of the paper. In fact, I usually am fixing under white light because I discover the paper while I'm cleaning up and toss the print into the fixer before I dispose of it.
     
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    Well I stand corrected then,there are a lot of chems that can devel. paper ,toners and such.Don't knock it before you try it I suppose.
     
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    When I was in art school in the late 90's we did these on purpose. The professor called them Chemical Stains.