Hello friends at APUG, it's been a while since I posted, but after spending literally hours searching online for information without much success I decided this was the place to come. I am working on a project right now that is very reminiscent of David Levinthal's work. I first started digitally so I could see the results. If you are interested, here is the link to the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikezphoto/sets/72157622450690919/ Some people loved the color in the images, but I didn't think it was quite right, I even thought about switching to B/W. However when I brought down the saturation slider in Lightroom almost all of the way I was very pleased. Some of the images in the flickr gallery have been altered this way as well. I typically shoot 4x5 PRO160S and print on Kodak or Fuji Matte paper (RA-4). After doing a lot of online research and calling old gurus, I was disappointed to find out that there is NO way to achieve the extremely desaturated look that I desired in the images. After a lot of digging around I came across an old obscure thread on largeformat.info http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?t=33452 The rest of the research I did resulted in people using B/W processing for old E6 film to achieve B/W results. From being into C-41 and RA-4 for a little while I have come to realize most people are really into VIVID colors and that not so many people are interested in dull almost monochrome color pallets from their C-41 film and RA-4 prints. So after visiting my local photo super store (www.uniquephoto.com) and having them give me a hard time about not knowing exactly what C-41 chemicals I needed, I was on my way with the following: 1 bottle of KODAK Flexicolor Tank Bleach SM 1 bottle of KODAK Flexicolor Fixer and Replenisher Back at my University's lab I only had a little bit of Rodinal left so I figured I would try HC110 until I "perfected" the result. At first I was using way too much bleach, way too high development temperatures (causing HC110 to decompose I believe) and nothing was coming out, I was frustrated to say the least. I know that sometimes people use a BLIX instead of separate bleach and fixer so I started mixing a varying amounts of bleach with fixer and started to get results! At first they were just monochrome negs with a base tint, but after finding the "right" formula I was stunned when I examined the negs with a loupe and began to see traces of color! Here are the results from some rough scans: Velvia 50 exposed at ISO 50 Developed in Rodinal 1:25 for 9 minutes with constant agitation cleared with a mixture of: .5 oz Flexicolor Tank Bleach 9.5oz Flexicolor Fixer + Replenisher solution Velvia 50 exposed at ISO 50 developed in HC110 dilution B for 8 minutes with constant agitation cleared with a mixture of: .5 oz Flexicolor Tank Bleach 9.5oz Flexicolor Fixer + Replenisher solution I am very excited with the results so far even though they are just simple test shots. If anyone has any helpful hints or advice on why this is happening or what I can do to alter/improve the process, please let me know.