Ultrafine B+W 125 film...same as JandC 125, HP-4???

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    I was taking a look at Ultrafine B+W ISO 125 film in 8x10 size, and I was wondering if this is the same film as J and C photos 125 film that sells for just abit cheeper. I also heard rumor that it could be Ilford HP-4.

    Also, anyone develop this in HC-110 and can supply me with any starting development times.

    Thanks so much.
     
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    It's neither, it's rebranded Ilford FP4. They are on their last master roll so if you want Ilford at this price buy it now.

    note: you were probably thinking the right thing and just typed the wrong film name--HP5 is the 400 speed film.
     
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    FP-4, sorry. I was confusing it with Ilfords other film.

    I have been using the Arista EDU 8x10 film since it came out, and now its not being made anymore...so I was thinking of trying this Ultrafine 125 film for making AZO contact prints. I have had great success with the Arista EDU. and HC-110 combo, but I was wondering how well FP-4 develops with HC-110. I guess I will do alittle seaching.

    Thanks so much!
     
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    Ryan,
    The EFKE PL 100 developed in Sandy King's Pyrocat formula is a great film to use for contact printing on AZO. Consider giving it a try.

    Gary
     
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    Is there somewhere I can find the correct way to mix the Kings Pyrocat formula for Efke 100 film? I did a basic seach and came up with this. Also, I develop my sheet film in trays, I see different formulas for if someone develops in a Jobs, trays, ect. Thanks for your help, I am a learning student!

    Pyrocat-HD

    Stock Solution A
    Distilled Water (125 degrees F) . . . . . . . . 75 ml
    Sodium Metabisulfite. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 g
    Pyrocatechin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 g
    Phenidone . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.2 g
    Potassium Bromide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.2 g
    Water to make . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100 ml

    Stock Solution B
    Distilled Water . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 70 ml
    Potassium Carbonate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75 g
    Distilled water to make - - - - - - - - - - - - - 100 ml

    To make a standard working solution, mix 1 part A with 1 part B with 100 ml water. Pyrocat-HD is not subject to problems with uneven development, so agitation can be reduced to once per minute or less. 2.5 grams of Metol may be substituted for the Phenidone.
     
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    Ryan, try Photographer's Formulary for a starter kit ($30) and see how you like it. I'm enjoying it and it is easier than doing the chemistry for the first attempt. tim
     
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    Thanks Tim! I know how much time you have put into reseaching this Pyro thing, so I will have to give it a try. I cannot remember, but are you using the Ekfe 100, or 25?
     
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    Who sells the Ultrafine film?
     
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    Ryan-you can also mix up Pyrocat with metol and sodium carbonate. Check the unblinkingeye article by Sandy King. Taht' what I use.
    Peter
     
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    Similarly, do you know what the Ultrafine B&W 100 Film 120 Format is?

    The other B&W film, 35mm & 4x5, is all 125 so I suspect it's FP4+ as well. But this ISO100, I don't know about that one.

    Nathan