Ultrafine Papers

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  1. Film Guerilla

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    Hi there,

    I've been looking for some papers to use for paper negatives and contact printing and i came across ultrafine website.

    http://www.ultrafineonline.com/ulphpa.html

    Their range of papers seems to be affordable. Anyone had tried any of their paper for negatives/printing?

    Thanks!

    PS: Sorry, I'm having problem with the search function here so i decided to post it here as well.
     
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    I bought a pack of the Fibre in 5x7 but I haven't cracked it yet.

    I've always had good experiences with them but I know a few have gotten some colorshifted film recently.
    They are always upfront with the dating and such so if you're buying expired stuff you takes your chances

    I know this doesn't apply to the paper situation (or help you out at all ) but thought I'd throw it out here anyway. I've had good experiences so far with my dealings with them and would recommend them.

    Plus they are an advertiser/sponsor here on APUG.
     
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    thanks bruce. while searching from other forums it seems that there are a few not satisfied customers out there.
     
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    i haven't used any of their latest paper,
    but bought and use ( still use ) some of their
    "made in england" paper when they sold it.
    beautiful paper !
    if the new stuff is anything like the paper they rebranded
    from ilford you have nothing to worry about.

    john
     
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    I have used both VC and grade 3 RC for proofing and work prints, seems to be Foma. I am puzzled as why Ultrafine is not required to list the country of orgin. I find both graded and VC to meet my needs for work prints, I am looking to replace SAVICH (sp?) fiber for final prints.
     
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    By U.K. standards these are amazing prices. A pack of 100 VC Elite 5x7 works out at about £10.50 We haven't seen such prices in the U.K. for probably 15 years at least - maybe more. At these prices I'd be gaily buying at using paper without a second thought. Ilford would have to go onto 24/7 working :D

    I wonder who makes this stuff and how does Ultrafine manage to sell it for these prices and still make a profit?

    I wish I hadn't seen this thread. It only revives in me and I suspect other U.K. based APUGers the old feelings that somehow we are being ripped off here in the U.K.

    pentaxuser
     
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    Seems that B&H sells also Foma as house brand as Multitone at about the same price, lower than Freestyle house brand. At least Freestyle has always listed the country of orgin.
     
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    sorry about this thread. :D i'm just curious how ultrafine is selling papers for the price. would like to know if their papers are also rebranded like some of freestyle papers/films.. anyone can confirm this?

    thank you guys!

     
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    interesting.. i haven't check B&H house brands.. i might end up getting some arista papers for my purpose. since there are no detailed info about ultrafine papers atleast freestyle is very open with that.

     
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    Adorama also sells a House Brand paper in both RC and Fiber and at good prices.
    I quite like the matte version of the fiber as it is quite warm.
     
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    Is the current UltraFine still Made in England?
     
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    Unless made to order by Harman my guess is that Ultrafine house brand in is Foma.
     
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    Does Harman not sell in bulk?
     
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    Not since the the creation of Harman (Harmon?). There were lots of stories about the old Freestyle Arista Line. But it was Ilford products.

    The story I heard and like the most (meaning I do not know if it was true, but sounds reasonable) was that British labor laws required workers be guarenteed a certain number of hours of work...which caused over-production. Ilford would then sell the excess in bulk to Freestyle and other companies at low prices to be re-branded...but with an agreement not to disclose that Ilford made it -- to preserve their own sales.

    If Freestyle changes the name of their house brand, it usually means the source of the paper/film has changed. Arista, Artista-Plus, Arista-EDU.
     
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    I don't think it's Foma. Foma paper doesn't like my OC safelights, Ultrafine is ok with them.
     
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    I bought some 120 B/W film from Ultrafine last year that is most likely Lucky. I believe Lucky also makes B/W paper. I have some of the Ultrafine paper, also bought last year. Comparing it to the Arista EDU Ultra VC RC, the texture is a bit different, it responds to contrast filtration differently, and the Ultrafine paper has a slight tendency to curl away from the emulsion side. This is the opposite of the Freestyle/Foma paper.

    I think there is a distinct possibility the Ultrafine paper is Lucky, or Chinese made at least. There is no country of origin listed for either the Ultrafine 120 film or the Ultrafine paper.
     
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    I did buy a roll of 120 ISO 400 from Ultrafine and it's spool and paper along with the seal are identical to that of Ilford film. Perhaps this stuff is Kentmere?