Unable to achieve black in old Ilford paper

Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by Eva Bannow, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. Eva Bannow

    Eva Bannow Member

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    Tonight I tried to print using an old box of Ilford paper. I gave my test strip 2 1/2 minutes exposure at f4 and only got a medium gray tone. I tried changing the contrast to a 5 and still got the same outcome. I tested the paper and found no base fog. I took a test strip and put it straight into the developer with the white room lights on. After 5 minutes, the test strip had a darker gray but no black.

    I tried a different paper and got a proper print.

    Paper: Ilford MGF.1K, unknown age
    Developer: Dektol

    Is there anything I can add to the developer to recover this paper?
     
  2. Jeff Bannow

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    That's a really great question!
     
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    Use it for paper negatives?! Or try lithing it maybe?

    Sounds like your paper is deceased.
     
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    If it is fiber (MGF?) I would be tempted to fix it out and yet the Cyanotype trick that was being discussed recently.
     
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    Try straight Dektol, or LPD with out dilution
     
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    Certainly a totally unbiased comment. Hoping for breakfast this morning Jeff?

    John Powers
     
  7. Jeff Bannow

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    Didn't seem to work! :sad:
     
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    Got to hand it to you Jeff that was a pretty good try.

    Eva- the paper sounds like it is toast, but it is really good for seasoning lith developers, so I keep old flat paper in stacks in my darkroom, open to light, when I lith print I use a bunch of this paper to activate the chems, kind of like getting to the sweet spot faster.
    Also I use this paper to focus with, lots of good uses but probably not what you want to use to make good prints with.

    Bob