Unknown film edge marking "400-271" - any idea what it is?

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  1. Trask

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    I seem to have acquired a bulk film loader at some point in the past -- I honestly can't remember when or where -- that has some mystery B/W film in it. So I loaded 10-12 exposures into a cassette and shot them off, hoping that there would be a name in the sprocket margin identifying the film after development. Sadly, no name on the length that I developed, only the code "400-271".

    FYI, I developed it in D-23 1:1, having chosen to rate the film at ASA 100 and bracketing from from -2 to +3 stops. I appears the film is best somewhere between 200 and 400.

    I can’t go develop another, longer length because I’m now in SW Asia and the bulk loader is in Virginia. So it’s not as if I’m going to be using this film any time soon, but nonetheless…

    Does anyone know what film this might be?
     

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    No dx code that I can see. A perceptive reader has sent me a PM pointing out that as the DIN speed for ISO 400 film is 27, this is probably a somewhat different way of marking that the film is ISO 400/DIN 27. I imagine that we'll get no further with this until I get back to Virginia toward the end of the year and shoot off a longer roll. :confused:
     
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    It's fuji neopan 400, 110%

    I'd recognize that edge printing anywhere. Same as on the LegacyPro re-label of it, too.
     
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    I thought that as well to begin with but the LegacyPro, at least, has a narrow, solid arrow and is labelled 400-36 (i.e ISO and number of exposures) and has "275" printed separately above every other frame. I can't speak to Fuji Neopan 400, although I'll finally get to find out for myself in a few weeks time.

    Sorry to not be of more help, Trask. I suspect you're right about needing a slightly larger sample, although I'd have thought a dozen frames should have shown you all of the edge markings existent.
     
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    Fuji doesn't always use the solid arrows...

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    I'm positive it's Neo 400.
     
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    I agree Neopan 400. Which is now getting rarer by the minute as freezers get loaded up in reaction to the recent announcement. Just ordered 50 more rolls myself last night. BIN asking prices on eBay already going higher it seems...
     
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    Trask: what scanner did you use?
     
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    An Epson Photo Perfection 3200. To get the numbers along the edge I had to lay the negative strip directly on the glass and hold flat with a Better Scanning glass.

    Why do you ask?

    OK, I'm willing to believe that it's Neopan 400 -- thanks, everyone!
     
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    400PR.
     
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    OT: nice self portrait :wink:
     
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    The ToadMen: Ha! Yeah, maybe I'll submit that on the thread that's running "show your self portrait!"

    clayne: what's 400PR, please?
     
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    Neopan 400 or Neopan Presto (both the same)
     
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    Because it's a very good scan!
     
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    The "Epson Perfection 3200 PHOTO" scanner combined with Silverfast 8 scanning software is my combination and it is very good! Is has a back light cover and holders for several sizes of negatives.
    The software has even the characteristics of many film types preloaded in its settings.
     
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    I would agree with the other posters that it is Neopan 400 - Private label version. In fact

    1) Emulsion number 271 was one of the two emulsions of Legacy Pro 400 that I purchased from Freestyle sales, the other was 275.

    2) the bulk Film version does have the Open Arrow. the factory packed version does not. I bought both and so the difference is quite clear.

    3) the PR (for professional?) is only shown on FUJI branded product.

    4) 400-36 and or PR 36 implies a 36 exposure roll.

    5) you will find when you finish the roll that it is on what the movie folks call a "100Ft Daylight Spool" (and NO, that does not mean that the film loader can be opened-movie guys are happy to fog several feet of film at the ends) all the Legacy Pro spools I used were stamped "FUJI FILM"

    6) the Em 271 was out of date about 2 years ago, so It should be fine at close to 400.

    Considering Neopan 400 is apparently discontinued as of this week, you have a great find, enjoy.
     
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    PR == Presto.

    100ACR: Neopan 100 Acros
    100SS: Neopan 100 SS
    400PR: Neopan 400 Presto
    1600PR: Neopan 1600 Presto
     
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    Is the Epson 3200 similar to the V500?
     
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    Click here for the Epson 3200 info and here for the Epson V500 info.
    I haven't used the V500 so I can't compare the use of it, but there are some tests on internet and Youtube.
    My Epson 3200 is still working fine so no need for me to "upgrade".

    BTW, isn't this getting too much off topic (OT)? If you want to know more, I suggest you make a new thread and ask all the experts on APUG about there experiences (if there isn't such a thread already).

    (with my apologies to TRASK)