Using Rodinal in 1st Dev bath in E-6

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  1. grantsuarez

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    Looking for dilution and times for Rodinal in E-6 1st developer bath.

    The 1st dev bath is a low activity developer similar to F76+. I figure why not switch it out for something more radical.

    Anyone tried dektol?

    Any experiences welcome! Can't seem to find the answers anywhere.
     
  2. Baryta

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    I've used D-19... I think you will need to add a silver solvent, but it

    worked nicely, despite the fact that color balance went off slightly....

    Just use regular dilutions and times and test.

    Baryta
     
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    HOLD IT, now I seem to have forgotten, was it D-8, 11, or 19?

    I can't recall in all this heat, but I will say it was one of the high contrast formulas.

    Baryta
     
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    This is called "Film acceleration" and was mentioned on an RIT discussion forum. I tried it with C-41 using D-76 as a first developer (you have to use the Colour developer after the B&W one, to activate the colour dyes). The film can be exposed to an E.I. many times higher than it's own ISO speed and the contrast and colours go berzerk... There is a chance of creating positives, if you push the B&W dev. too much (chemical solarization).

    I have never tried it with an E-6 developing kit, I am curious to see what would happen. There are no rules, just do some tests in order to find out a suitable time-temp combination. Tell us about the results, show us a picture if possible...
     
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    Chemical solarization sounds cool.

    Well, I'd be doing this in a Wing-Lynch machine. The chemical solarization sounds cool. That added with the reversal bath could be amaizing or too dense to be usable. I've recently found out that Rodinal for the most part is lower in activity than some other bw developers. So it might be just the ticket for the 1st bath.

    I go to school at Art Center in Pasadena, and they just recently killed the
    E-6 handline. Too bad, it would have been easier that way.

    Thanks all for the tips. I'm glad I found this user group!
     
  6. David A. Goldfarb

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    Let us know the results. This is something I've been curious about since I started running my own E-6 again recently.
     
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    Sounds very interesting. I am getting my E6 up soon.
     
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    Can you comment on this some more. Times? How berzerk do the colours go? What temp for the D-76?
     
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    I want to know more too! Have to try this. Love crossprocessing etc.
     
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    OK, let me try to find some images in my chaotic archives and I'll send you samples. I'll try to find the times and temps I used too. I have to tell you though, there are no standards. experimentation and imagination are necesary.
    I'll let you know soon...
     
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    I tried that a while back. Something in the Rodinal activated all the dyes and the film came out completely black even though there was plenty of density in the neg stage of development. I'd love to know more about this myself.
     
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    Those look interesting. Thanks for finding the info and examples.