Werra sticky shutterDoes any one know

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  1. archer

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    Does anyone know where I can get my Werra camera serviced with a CLA? The shutter is a Prontor with speeds from bulb to 1/750 and all the speeds under 1/60 seem to be sticking.
    Denise Libby
     
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    I don,t know where you are located, but if you are in the UK or possibly Europe then the best place I know of is newtonellis.co.uk I have recently had a Werra serviced by them and they did a very good job indeed, in fact I use them for all of my classic cameras, and I don't think there is anything they cannot fix,Richard
     
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    I think the shutter is a Prestor, not Prontor; it has two sets of blades, one set for opening and the other for closing, thus offering a higher top speed.
     
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    You'd have to check, remember there was still co-operation between East & West German camera & lens manufacturers until the mid 1950's when the Communists broke all ties.

    Werra's are cult camera's quite innovative at the time which is why I'm sure Denise would like it working again.

    It needs remembering that many features we take for granted with modern cameras came from East Germany, the first full 35mm SLR system with motor drive was a Praktina, the first camera with TTL metering was the Prakticamat. Werra were part of that culture.

    BTW Denise is not from Ambridge :D

    Ian
     
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    The werra's with the top speed of 750 used a prestor shutter,which were made in house,early examples used a compur,but when Zeiss Ikon would no longer supply Carl Zeiss with shutters they produced an in house shutter, The werra were very innovative, and ahead of their time and are lovely cameras that take great photographs today, I have 2,a werra mat and a werra 3 complete with the extra lenses,and I use them reguarly, they have both been serviced by Newton and Ellis,Richard
     
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    A classic solution, especially if yours is an interchangeable lens model, is a drop or two of lighter fuluid on the shutter blades and then cycle many times.

    Whle not as good in the long run as a real CLA, I've gotten the low speeds of many central shutters (including, IIRC, a Werra or a Werramatic) to fire accurately.

    Werras are interesting cameras and I used one for a while, but couldn't get used to its ergonomics...
     
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    If you want the contact information for a repair person, tell us your country. Otherwise, it's a waste of time to suggest a U.S. location if you're in Australia or someone in the U.K. if you live in the U.S.

    And that is a Prestor, not a Prontor. These were made in East Germany.

    The story is that when the Soviets repatriated the Germans who had helped them set up operations in Kiev (not 100% certain about the location), Carl Zeiss Jena in East Germany now had a lot of extra people, who eventually developed the Werra.

    I'd have to go back and read the article again to see how accurately I've remembered it -- or not.

    In any case, there were numerous models. Some had rangefinders. Some didn't. Some had meters. Some didn't. Some had rangefinders and meters. Some had neither.

    I have a nice Werra 3 (rangefinder but no meter). Excellent camera with true interchangeable lenses.

    The rangefinder system is incredibly complex. And removing the top deck is no simple matter either.
     
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    The story I got was, technicians disgruntled at being "left behind" in the East (when Zeiss was re-incorporated in the West, they apparently got a number of people from Jena to come over), wanted to show what they could achieve.
    If true, perhaps they were the same ones who returned from Kiev.
     
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    The story I got was that the technicians, released by the Russians, drifted back to Carl Zeiss Jena, but there was nothing for them, but they were considered to good to lose, so they were given the old Zeiss factory and given the task of making a camera, and they came up with the Werra, which was perhaps over designed, but they were determined to pay back Zeiss's faith in them, and they certainly came up with a beautiful and, for it's time, unique camera, and a lovely tool for taking great photographs, I have 2 and love using them both,

    Richard
     
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    It would be fascinating to know if anyone knew for *certain* which of the "stories I got" was what really happened.
     
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    I am sorry. I thought I stated that I am located in the U.S., specifically, northern California and I haven't found anyone locally who has even heard of the Werra let alone worked on one. I really love the camera as it is the first adjustable camera I bought when I decided I wanted to become a photographer. I couldn't afford a Leica at the time.
    Denise Libby
     
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    I have heard many good things about this place, but I have not had the chance to try them out yet. I guess I should send them something!

    http://ictcamera.com/

    Depending where you are, they may work for you (they are in Mountain View, CA)
     
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    I hope that didn't come off as harsh. There are a lot of these types of requests, and at times people refuse to say where they're located.

    Anyway, which model Werra do you have? Does your camera have a flat top? Or a rounded top? Meter or no meter?

    Let me know if you cannot find a repair person. I have a Werra 3, and after servicing it, it has been a joy to use. I also have a very early Werra (scale focus) that needs to be serviced -- maybe this weekend.
     
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    Dear elekm;
    no offense taken, as I've seen the same thing before and found it annoying too. The box it came in says Werramatic and coupled rangefinder and exposure meter which, by the way, works perfectly and in good light is as accurate as my Minolta lVF.
    Denise Libby
     
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    Just wondering if anyone has done a tear-down of the Werra(matic) shutter?
    I would like to do a proper clean as opposed to just cleaning the blades, as the shutter sticks at some speeds but not others and the camera has a bit of corrosion to varoius surfaces (body and shutter mechanism).
    Looks ok from the front side - similar to other shutter mechanisms. I haven't investigated the rear end yet, or got as far as the shutter vanes, but if anyone has any tips, let me know! :wink: