Would an aquarium air pump be sufficient to circulate water in a temp controlled bath

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  1. J Rollinger

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    I want to make my own temperature controlled bath to develop C41 film. I had a print processor in the classifieds but there was no takers so i want to remove the therm units from it and make a temperature controlled bath with them but my concern is how to circulate the water so the temp is even. Can i use a small aquarium air pump for this or would that just give me a lot of bubbles?

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    An air pump would give bubbles. You might consider a submersible aquarium pump - I used one for several years to circulate my wash water in a large tub.
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    Jim,

    My only thought is the temperature of the water bath. The brain is a bit fogged but C41 100f +- yes no?????

    Jan Pietrzak
     
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    I second Juan's idea with the submersible pump - air pumps only make bubbles, giving your darkroom/lab a bubbling (along with the hum of the pump itself) sound - I've tried this once but promtly removed it.

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    Yes it is. The therms from the processor go over 130F i believe.
     
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    Juan... Thanks for the advice. I have a ceramic tile cutter with a pump in the pan that shoots water over the blade, maybe i wi;; use that until i buy one. I checked the web and they seem very cheap.
     
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    Jim - I've bought a couple of inexpensive submersible aquarium pumps from a local petshop, to circulate water in my negative and my print washer. Apart from the humming sounds, they do the job perfectly. And, they are easy to fit with tubing / hoses etc.
     
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    OK, don't laugh, but I used a kids toy submarine for a while. A plastic battery case with a small electric motor and a little propeller. It even had a rubber suction cup to stick it to the base of the bath. It worked perfectly ;-)
     
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    LMAO!
     
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    Here is what i have to work with, I removed the lid and the roller unit. I wonder what circulated the water in the processor... the rollers? I would be happy if i can use it for one roll at a time since i rarely shoot color.

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    I use a cheap submersible aquarium pump made for reptile tanks and it works fine. It was the same model but half the price of pumps for fish tanks.
     
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    An aquarium pump does help circulate water. There is a flow of water rising up along with the bubbles. But I'm not sure how effective this would be in a shallow tray.
     
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    I use a small and cheap (around 5$) aquarium water pump to circulate water in my CPE2. Works nicely, got it from eBay.
     
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    A submersible fountain pump works well for this purpose. You can get them in all different sizes.
     
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    I use an evaporative cooler "swamp cooler" circulation pump which costs less than $20 in any hardware store in southern arizona. Works great.
     
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    I have been using my pump from a wet saw and it works great. Now i just have to remember to put it back when i have a tile job to do!
     
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    I circulate the water in my 8ft darkroom sink with two medium size aquarium "power heads". Temp is maintained by a 200w unbreakable aquarium heater. Works fine in the 60-65ish all the time basement.
     
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    I just ran across this thread. You can use an aquarium pump or even a pond pump. The larger ones are rated in GPH (gallons per hour). When I had my 100 gallon aquarium setup, I ran one 300 GPH Flugal external pump in a sealed canister with one inlet and one outlet 1/2inch hose circulating the water. I also used two temp adjusting heaters to keep the water at a constant 88 degrees F.

    Pond pumps can even be purchased at Home Depot or Lowe's stateside. Little Giant is one of the better brands. Also, check auction sites for cheap used equipment as people are always upgrading equipment or taking down their tanks or ponds.
     
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    I use hot tap water that I measure around 100f and leave the chems and tanks in a slow flowing bath.
     
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    That's from the Durst Printo: the circulation is provided by the large roller.
     
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