Hi, I'm just getting started in 4x5, having bought most my gear here, and the only thing I don't have to go out and shoot is the film. I have found that it's pretty expensive. And the prices go up with the film size, dramatically. OK, I'm a bit pollyanna'ish. So, I'm looking for some 4x5 film, B&W only, expired is fine as long as the price is good and it's not over 20-30 years old. Kept cool or cold is preferred. Just about anything that will work, since I'm not making treasures yet, but I do need somewhat consistent results so that I can improve. Let me know what you have and where you are, I'm in Michigan, and how much you need for the film and shipping. I think I would also prefer standard ISO's either 100 or 400 or in the range. Well, thanks in advance if you have something I can use. Bob Nancarrow. You can PM me here or contact me through the email, email@example.com. Thanks again, Bob. P.S. I also need a dark cloth if anyone has one for sale or can point me to a good deal. For a 4x5 field camera like a Tachihara. Thanks, Bob.