APUG - View Single Post - ILFORD ULF Make : Poor Level Of Orders [But Ilford comes through in the end!]

Tom Stanworth · 05-22-2007, 04:31 AM

Curt,

There is a funadental principle here..........

If Ilford does not make money WE, the photographic community, will lose them and their products. I might want a lot of things. I might go so far as to request them, but thats as far as it goes. The actual demand for a V slow film in sheet is pretty low I would imagine. When 10x8 Fp4+ is available, there really is not that ,much need for an ISO 25 film in sheet!

Simon G has worked very hard to engage and accommodate us in our requests and I feel that if anything, we have let HIM down with a low level of orders for ULF film; one which seems to fall well below the real demand.

Ilford does not owe any of us anything. They are a business. There is no point comparing Ilford now with what Kodak used to be. no point at all.
Lets not bite the hand that feeds us and fully support what can be done!

I am astounded that these ULF sizes are still supported and we should be grateful for that. If you shoot 5x4 and want to print huge prints, there is always Delta 100 which in the righ dev is VERY fine grained. If this is not the look you are after, by all means buy a 10x8 camera and shoot Fp4+....and develop in perceptol if you like! You could even do what Clyde Buthcer does and enlarge 16x12 or whatever it is!

Its like being angry that Ford does not produce a 7 litre engine for the Ford Focus! If I want that you have to drive a Viper!

The fact that we are providing such direct input for Ilford (outside of the normal supply and demand feedback) is remarkable I think!!!!!!

05-22-2007, 04:31 AM	#67 (permalink)
Tom Stanworth Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,527	Curt, There is a funadental principle here.......... If Ilford does not make money WE, the photographic community, will lose them and their products. I might want a lot of things. I might go so far as to request them, but thats as far as it goes. The actual demand for a V slow film in sheet is pretty low I would imagine. When 10x8 Fp4+ is available, there really is not that ,much need for an ISO 25 film in sheet! Simon G has worked very hard to engage and accommodate us in our requests and I feel that if anything, we have let HIM down with a low level of orders for ULF film; one which seems to fall well below the real demand. Ilford does not owe any of us anything. They are a business. There is no point comparing Ilford now with what Kodak used to be. no point at all. Lets not bite the hand that feeds us and fully support what can be done! I am astounded that these ULF sizes are still supported and we should be grateful for that. If you shoot 5x4 and want to print huge prints, there is always Delta 100 which in the righ dev is VERY fine grained. If this is not the look you are after, by all means buy a 10x8 camera and shoot Fp4+....and develop in perceptol if you like! You could even do what Clyde Buthcer does and enlarge 16x12 or whatever it is! Its like being angry that Ford does not produce a 7 litre engine for the Ford Focus! If I want that you have to drive a Viper! The fact that we are providing such direct input for Ilford (outside of the normal supply and demand feedback) is remarkable I think!!!!!!