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pstake
03-26-2012, 10:44 AM
We're not misreading it, but trying to distinguish between taking photographs and shooting firearms. I happen to have cameras and guns, so in an attempt to prevent confusion, I say "shooting" when I'm using guns, and "photographing" when I'm using cameras.

Those who feel good about using imprecise language may continue to do so, however they have no cause to gripe when they are not understood. As Mark Twain wrote, "the difference between the right word and almost the right word is the difference between 'lightning' and 'lightningbug'".

How courageous. Takes a big man stand up against slang in a friendly thread about photography, in a forum whose overwhelming purpose is photography. Whether with firearms or not, you're sharpshooting.

I understood that you were not boasting about your firearms as much as your ability to sharpshoot language. There is irony in your conjuring of Mark Twain to criticize the use of slang, considering that Twain employed slang throughout his most-famous novel.

If this was a firearms AND cameras forum, you would have a valid gripe and a good reason to hijack this thread. But this is not a firearms and cameras forum.


Those who feel good about using imprecise language may continue to do so, however they have no cause to gripe when they are not understood.

In this sentence, the word "those" requires a noun in the previous sentence or immediately afterward.
"Those" is not a normal pronoun. It is a demonstrative pronoun.


For turkeys, I use a .22rf and shoot their heads off.

This sentence ends in a preposition, a major faux pas among the literary elite.

".22rf" is incorrectly written. There should be a space between the numerals and letters. And if you want to be, ahem, precise — you would write .22-caliber rifle."

Now, when noble Von Hoegh, courageous defender of syntactical correctness, is finished protesting the verb, "shoot," I'd still like to hear from street shooters about their chosen equipment. And I wager a few others here would be interested in this relevant topic as well.

For what it's worth, Von, I carry a Star Firestar ultra-compact 9mm.

It has very little recoil and incredible stopping power.

E. von Hoegh
03-26-2012, 10:44 AM
I usually have my 38 + P, J frame S&W tucked in my belt if the camera about my neck sets off some unsuspecting person on the street I capture with my camera. Never had to swap "formats" while out shooting.
YET. ;)

Are you posting about photographing people, or shooting them? I can't tell which.

E. von Hoegh
03-26-2012, 10:48 AM
How courageous. Takes a big man stand up against slang in a friendly thread about photography, in a forum whose overwhelming purpose is photography. Whether with firearms or not, you're sharpshooting.

I understood that you were not boasting about your firearms as much as your ability to sharpshoot language. There is irony in your conjuring of Mark Twain to criticize the use of slang, considering that Twain employed slang throughout his most-famous novel.

If this was a firearms AND cameras forum, you would have a valid gripe and a good reason to hijack this thread. But this is not a firearms and cameras forum.



In this sentence, the word "those" requires a noun in the previous sentence or immediately afterward.
"Those" is not a normal pronoun. It is a demonstrative pronoun.



This sentence ends in a preposition, a major faux pas among the literary elite.

".22rf" is incorrectly written. There should be a space between the numerals and letters. And if you want to be, ahem, precise — you would write .22-caliber rifle."

Now, when noble Von Hoegh, courageous defender of syntactical correctness, is finished protesting the verb, "shoot," I'd still like to hear from street shooters about their chosen equipment. And I wager a few others here would be interested in this relevant topic as well.

For what it's worth, Von, I carry a Star Firestar ultra-compact 9mm.

It has very little recoil and incredible stopping power.

You're as well informed about English as you are about "stopping power".

pstake
03-26-2012, 10:50 AM
You're as well informed about English as you are about "stopping power".

Punctuation goes inside the quotes, big guy.

LJSLATER
03-26-2012, 11:59 AM
This isn't really related, but yesterday I was at a cemetery when a herd of deer arrived. I sat on the ground next to a tombstone and within a few minutes, the deer were almost close enough to pet! I had an MD-12 attached to my FM2n and I was able to squeeze off one shot before they scattered.

I could have taken the motor drive off or advanced the film manually, but I really didn't realize how loud the motor was until yesterday.

daleeman
03-26-2012, 12:01 PM
Are you posting about photographing people, or shooting them? I can't tell which.

Actually both, but mostly I was refering to the desire not to change "formats" from 35 to 38 unless necessary. Way things have been going with PC here in the US, one may have to get a conceal carry permit for both soon.

E. von Hoegh
03-26-2012, 01:29 PM
Actually both, but mostly I was refering to the desire not to change "formats" from 35 to 38 unless necessary. Way things have been going with PC here in the US, one may have to get a conceal carry permit for both soon.

Gotcha. Either could be appropriate, depending upon the situation.;)

pstake
03-26-2012, 10:06 PM
I wonder how this conversation would have gone if I'd have used the word "expose."

amsp
03-27-2012, 12:34 PM
I've uploaded more street shots to my flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hassy501cm/), all done with my Hassy. In case anyone is interested :)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7076/6869122168_f3f39bf3bc_b.jpg

pstake
03-27-2012, 01:08 PM
[QUOTE=amsp;1322397]I've uploaded more street shots to my flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hassy501cm/), all done with my Hassy. In case anyone is interested :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hassy501cm/7015242767/

Very cool, AMSP. This one of the riot police calmly looking at you is really interesting. Would be interesting to know the backstory there.

Great stuff. Reinforcing my quest for a Hassy.

amsp
03-27-2012, 02:10 PM
[QUOTE=amsp;1322397]I've uploaded more street shots to my flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hassy501cm/), all done with my Hassy. In case anyone is interested :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hassy501cm/7015242767/

Very cool, AMSP. This one of the riot police calmly looking at you is really interesting. Would be interesting to know the backstory there.

Great stuff. Reinforcing my quest for a Hassy.

Thanks, the other side of the story and the reason they were out in force is in the photograph before that one, there was a Communist party rally nearby. I saw these guys and hesitated for a moment (I think you can guess why) but then asked my girlfriend who speaks Turkish to ask them if it was ok for me to take their portrait. After assuring them I was a "tourist" they agreed, needless to say I was pretty shaky taking the photograph as they grimly stared at me. :D But looking at the result I'm glad I did.

Taslim Abdani
04-10-2012, 11:58 AM
I use, at various times the Contax RX with the Zeiss 50 1.7 or 1.4 and sometimes the Zeiss 35 2.8, the Contax Aria with the 45mm Zeiss Pancake lens, the Konica Hexar AF (great for street photography as it is extremely quiet and has a fine 35mm lens) and finally the Voightlander Bessa R with the Soviet era Jupiter 8 lens.

blockend
06-02-2012, 04:52 PM
A pair of A-Series Canons with 24/28mm lenses and 50mm 1.4, or an Olympus MjuII and a Konica Big Mini. At events where people expect to see photographers I take the SLRs, for mobility on the street the compacts win out.

Arkasha
06-03-2012, 05:34 PM
Thanks for the posts, asmp - It's good to know one can do street with a MF camera! :D

amsp
06-04-2012, 05:26 AM
Thanks for the posts, asmp - It's good to know one can do street with a MF camera! :D

For sure, and I've found that using a waist level finder people either don't notice you or they respond very favorably. There's something very disarming about the old time charm of a Hassy or a Rolleiflex for example. The photos by Vivian Maier I think are a good example of this.

graywolf
06-23-2012, 05:22 PM
Punctuation goes inside the quotes, big guy.

Yah, that is what they teach in the universities these days. I recently took a class that was called "professional writing", but was really "writing for professionals". From there it went down hill. No self respecting secretary from the 1950's would have allowed any such crap as the "professor" taught to leave their desk except to the waste basket. Not only was this stuff not a third or fourth year college class, it was not even an acceptable high school class back in the days when students were expected to learn something rather than just be there.

Punctuation goes inside the quotes when the whole sentence is quoted. It goes outside the quotes when the quote is contained inside a sentence. If you think that is wrong go up to the above sentence and replace "professor" with "professor." (There I did it your way, and it is still wrong wrong wrong! Semantically, grammatically, and logically wrong.)

The funny thing is everyone remembers the rules, but not the part that goes, "..., except when...". (A period does not follow ellipses, except when separated by a closing quote.)

Sorry, I get upset when people start spouting rules while ignoring the "except when". Almost every English grammatical rule has an "except when".

pstake
06-25-2012, 10:53 PM
Yah, that is what they teach in the universities these days. I recently took a class that was called "professional writing", but was really "writing for professionals". From there it went down hill. No self respecting secretary from the 1950's would have allowed any such crap as the "professor" taught to leave their desk except to the waste basket. Not only was this stuff not a third or fourth year college class, it was not even an acceptable high school class back in the days when students were expected to learn something rather than just be there.

Punctuation goes inside the quotes when the whole sentence is quoted. It goes outside the quotes when the quote is contained inside a sentence. If you think that is wrong go up to the above sentence and replace "professor" with "professor." (There I did it your way, and it is still wrong wrong wrong! Semantically, grammatically, and logically wrong.)

The funny thing is everyone remembers the rules, but not the part that goes, "..., except when...". (A period does not follow ellipses, except when separated by a closing quote.)

Sorry, I get upset when people start spouting rules while ignoring the "except when". Almost every English grammatical rule has an "except when".

You're partially correct. English contains many conditionals. Your "writing for professionals" apparently does not apply to professional journalists. So there's a caveat, too. There's at least one exception.

Also, I'm a professional print journalist. Not a photojournalist. I'm a writer; I know the rules ... and I lighten up in conversational threads except when people start sharpshooting as though the conversation exists in a vacuum, without context. Did you read this entire thread, graywolf?

I quote the Associated Press Stylebook.

“PLACEMENT WITH OTHER PUNCTUATION: Follow these long-established printers’ rules

— The period and the comma always go within the quotation marks.

— The dash, the semicolon, the question mark and the exclamation point go within the quotation marks when they apply to the quoted matter only. They go outside when they apply to the whole sentence.”

dnjl
08-18-2012, 05:21 PM
I don't consider myself 'seasoned' at all, but I feel that if I try hard enough, one day I'll produce photographs that will be worth seeing. Until now, my primary tools for street photography have been SLRs, namely a Canon F-1n and an FTb. I used to shoot different lenses, but eventually settled on the 50mm f1.4 - a lens that is as good as it is expendable. It gives me a certain feeling of security, walking around with easily replacable gear instead of a 10.000$ Leica setup.
Lately, I've noticed that using manual-everything SLRs can be too slow for street photography. I've missed quite a few opportunities because I was fumbling around with my camera. That's why I'm currently saving some money for a Bessa R3a and 50mm lens.

By the way, how do you guys feel about filters? I never use one, not even UV. Uncoated ones flare, multicoated ones attract dirt and are impossible to clean on the go. I also rather like the low-contrast look with lots of shadow detail that I get from unfiltered light.

I have some recent photographs up on my blog, which is in my signature line.

gb hill
10-28-2012, 09:02 PM
Mainly I shoot with my Bessa R with CV35/2.5 color skopar. I have a Canonet but I find it impossible for me to zone focus.

JimO
10-29-2012, 08:24 PM
p-38 air-cooled, blood-fed...

the weapon of choice for the vietnam era infantryman "shooting' holes in those tin cans of c-rations.

jvo