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Charlie Wheelihan
03-21-2012, 08:36 AM
I am looking forward to seeing the farm museum. Hopefully weather will permit my being able to get some wet plate images there this time around. I will have my new wet plate camera by then and can't wait to shoot there. Should be a good match for the subject matter.

jp80874
03-21-2012, 01:59 PM
There are a lot of old things around here for that: your host, the OH & Erie Canal, the covered bridge, Hale Farm from the road (they don't allow tripods).

John

jp80874
03-24-2012, 09:13 AM
Charlie,

What is your new wet plate gear and how does it differ from what you were getting last time you were here?

It is amazing reading back through the thread, how many different processes we will have at this event.

John

Charlie Wheelihan
03-24-2012, 02:21 PM
John,

Last time I was using an old 8x10 Agfa Ansco with a converted film holder for the plate holder. I was limited to shooting plates about 4x5 and 7x9. The lens I was using was a 14 1/2" Verito soft focus lens. I just recently sold both those off (and some other things). I had purchased them as short term anyway. Those monies were set aside for my new stuff.

My new gear is from 1861 a Dallmeyer Petzval 13" f3.5 that I purchased from Eddie.

For my camera I have Steve from Black Art Woodcraft finishing up a new 8x10 wet plate camera. I will have inserts in which I can shoot: half-plate, whole plate, 8x10, 10x10 and 4x10 plates. It will be going onto one of his wooden tripods.

I am soon going to be trying to make some collodion negatives for use in albumen printing. With all the stuff Mat is doing I am hoping Mat will figure out albumen printing so he can teach me. You hear that Mat? Not long ago I bought a NICE contact print frame from Bostick and Sullivan.

mat4226
03-25-2012, 12:31 AM
Challenge accepted Charlie! I'll tell you what, if you can bring some 12% AgNO3 solution and Sodium Thiosulfate (hypo) fixer, I'll supply the coated paper and selenium toner, and we'll see if we can make an albumen print happen! If you want to try your own negatives, make sure they have super high contrast!

Charlie Wheelihan
03-25-2012, 02:09 AM
Challenge accepted Charlie! I'll tell you what, if you can bring some 12% AgNO3 solution and Sodium Thiosulfate (hypo) fixer, I'll supply the coated paper and selenium toner, and we'll see if we can make an albumen print happen! If you want to try your own negatives, make sure they have super high contrast!

Mat,

You are awesome!

Sounds like a plan. I have some extra
AgNO3, so I can bring some 12% with me. And I have about 5 pounds of Sodium Thiosulfate I think. That should be more than enough me thinks. :). I don't have any Collodion negatives dense enough for albumen printing yet... But I have everything I need to do so. I will see if I can work on that by May.

jp80874
03-25-2012, 07:11 AM
John Jarosz of the MWLFA gave me a copy of “Albumen & Salted Paper
Book, The History and Practise of Photographic Printing 1840-1895,” John M. Reilly, if you think I can help with any research.

Thanks Mat. We really are going to learn and see some spectacular new-old stuff.

Charlie that gear really sounds great. I am looking forward to show and tell. What are you using for a dark box/room? Have you purchased a Joe Smigiel like RV, a Bill Schwab like trailer, or built something? Do we need to provide pasture for the horses or donkeys that will be pulling your period darkroom?

John

Charlie Wheelihan
03-25-2012, 10:16 AM
John Jarosz of the MWLFA gave me a copy of “Albumen & Salted Paper
Book, The History and Practise of Photographic Printing 1840-1895,” John M. Reilly, if you think I can help with any research.

Thanks Mat. We really are going to learn and see some spectacular new-old stuff.

Charlie that gear really sounds great. I am looking forward to show and tell. What are you using for a dark box/room? Have you purchased a Joe Smigiel like RV, a Bill Schwab like trailer, or built something? Do we need to provide pasture for the horses or donkeys that will be pulling your period darkroom?

John

John,

I do not have a setup like Bill has, although I would love to. I am using a dark box which I made with help from my brother-in-law and sister who sews.
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I am not exactly portable, especially adding in hauling my water, chemicals, waste jugs etc. I was hoping to hire some sherpas when I got to your area. Let me know if you can recommend any! :D

jp80874
03-25-2012, 01:11 PM
Gosh Charlie. It seems so clear to me. A trailer has been shown by Bill to be a proven method. Jeff & Eva brought you here in the first place, have that perfect sized trailer, and the 4 wheel drive Jeep to pull it. They are coming to the event and have expressed an interest in going to the museum, with possible ice cream side trips. I have some ground cloth plastic they have borrowed before. I think you just have to talk them into letting you toss their bed onto the plastic while you use the trailer. Sherpas are really expensive this time of year here.

John

ic-racer
03-25-2012, 04:52 PM
Charlie did you see this one: http://www.apug.org/forums/viewpost.php?p=330845

Charlie Wheelihan
03-25-2012, 05:20 PM
Dale,

I think I did see that when I was looking around doing my research. His idea is really slick. I think sometime in the future I would like to have a trailer like Bill Schwab has. For now I will have to stay in close proximity to my vehicle, although I have been looking at a small'ish pull cart with bicycle type tires.

John,

Yeah... I will have to run that by Jeff & Eva. :)

htimsdj
03-25-2012, 08:02 PM
A number of thoughts ...

First, as John was amazed with how many different processes are represented at our events, I started thinking about how many different photographic interests we share as a group. Camera collecting, photograph collecting, camera tinkerers, ... and even someone who just likes taking photographs and has never made his own print yet (me! - although I do like my current arrangement using the Labwork guys!).

Second, I just scored 4 photography books at the Rocky River Half Price Books. They had quite a few books - probably 20 feet of shelves - if any of the locals are interested. Which leads me to my third point ...

Third, John - if we ever need a west side of Cleveland stopping point, if for nothing else than a "pit stop", my place is always available.

thanks, Jeff

jp80874
03-25-2012, 08:12 PM
Thank you Jeff S for the invitation. Was that 20 feet of photography books? mmmmHHH.

...and in the theme of doing kind things for others in the group, Dolly and I just stopped at the Country Maid Ice Cream store for the early in the year quality control test. Jeff Bannow, you will be delighted to know that they survived the winter without our patronage. The flavors are just as extensive as last year. The taste is every bid as good as we remembered. Come on down.

John & Dolly

htimsdj
03-25-2012, 08:19 PM
John -

There were 2 book cases, with 4 shelves each, and each shelf was probably 3 feet wide. I only noticed one of them at first. When I backed up and saw the other I said "WOW" out loud. I bought "Photography After Frank", a small book from the Musee d'Orsay on Maurice Denis, "The Family of Man" (my second copy - but this one is a hardcover), and "Diary of a Century" (Lartigue).

Jeff



Thank you Jeff S for the invitation. Was that 20 feet of photography books? mmmmHHH.

...and in the theme of doing kind things for others in the group, Dolly and I just stopped at the Country Maid Ice Cream store for the early in the year quality control test. Jeff Bannow, you will be delighted to know that they survived the winter without our patronage. The flavors are just as extensive as last year. The taste is every bid as good as we remembered. Come on down.

John & Dolly

Lee L
03-26-2012, 08:29 AM
It's likely that I can make the May gathering, last minute surprises possible as always.

I've gotten a lot of photography books from Half-Price Books in North Olmsted. They have pretty good prices, and about the same shelf space for photography as the Rocky River location according to Jeff's description. The selection varies with who's traded in books recently, so lots of the best stuff comes in waves. Coincidentally, my wife was at the Musée d'Orsay a couple of days ago.

Looking forward to seeing everyone again. Anyone heard from Dan Henderson about the gathering? He should only be about 7-8 hours away in his new location.

Lee

jp80874
03-26-2012, 11:10 AM
Glad to hear from you Lee. Hope you can make it.

I have found the Half-Price Books in North Olmsted to have a better selection and much better prices than the Half-Price Books near Rt. 271 on I think it is Mayfield Rd. I wasn’t aware of the one in RR, but then that is a long ride from here. I haven’t been there often. I miss the fellow who regularly came to the Photorama swap meets from IN with two or three boxes of photo books. Many of mine came from him, 3-5 per event.

Barbara does travel to interesting and delicious places. I envy the good parts, but I know she works very hard and that sort of travel can wipe you out.

I will send an email to Dan. A lot of the people who have attended our gatherings in the past no long are regular Apug readers.

John

Jeff Bannow
03-28-2012, 11:17 AM
Eva & I are also planning on being there. Can't wait to see everyone again!

daleeman
03-28-2012, 12:36 PM
Books on photography is something I really enjoy. An amazing resource I found is www.abebooks.com. I used to get my used text books there while in classes. One day I typed in photography in the keyword search area and have not stopped buying books, most about $ 4.00 or so, including delivery.

Have a new virgin lens to bring to the gathering. A 285mm Wollsaton lens, mounted on a hardboard clone of a Technika lensboard built by Reinhold Schable with several waterstop (sp?) f stops. Makes me one with the shutter. Haven't tried it yet but Reinhold makes nice looking lenses. Many examples of the Wollsaton lenses here on APUG and on Reinhold's website.

Anyone here on this thread have any experience being a human shutter with a hat or dark slides. I've seen the You Tube stuff and can probably pull it off. Picked up an ND filter to put in front of the lens to help with slowing down the shutter speed while shooting wider open for the Wollsaton effect.

Lee

jp80874
03-28-2012, 01:25 PM
I used a lens cap yesterday on a lens without shutter. The lens is a Repromaster 213mm from a plate burner that Peter got for me from the Amish print shop salvage business where several of us have gotten beautiful equipment. The bracketed exposures were 45 seconds and six minutes. We had hoped the lens would have coverage for 7x17. It did not. I am trying it now with my 8x10. The first negative developed last night looked good.

Several years ago Peter and I were shooting in the main stairwell of the Cuyahoga County court house. I was half way through a 15 minute exposure when a lady walked up the stairs. She looked at my 8x10 with me staring at her while standing beside it. She asked if I were taking pictures. I said yes. She smiled and read the plaque on the landing in the middle of my picture. She called her daughter from off camera to come look at the plaque. The daughter came up the stairs and read the plaque. Then they turned and went back down the stairs, all the time with me standing beside the camera. Having anticipated such a problem I had put the dark slide over the open lens when I heard the first the woman coming and stopped my timer. When they left I removed the dark slide and started the timer again. The picture worked out pretty well.

John

Loupe-It
03-28-2012, 05:28 PM
I would like very much to come too.