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j-dogg
03-21-2012, 10:00 PM
Kodachrome coming back, my god. How awesome would that be, I would have no qualms paying big money to shoot it in 4x5 or 6x7.

I would seriously consider parting with all of my digital equipment if I could shoot Kodachrome large format or 120/220

mopar_guy
03-21-2012, 10:35 PM
HIE is going for stupid prices on eBay.

jnanian
03-21-2012, 11:00 PM
.... we haven't had this spirit here since .. 1969 ...

brian d
03-21-2012, 11:23 PM
.... we haven't had this spirit here since .. 1969 ...:sideways:

Bring back Kodachrome in sheet sizes and it really would be time for pink champagne on ice!!!:)

Ken Nadvornick
03-21-2012, 11:35 PM
$500 for a box of 10 8x10 sheets of Kodachrome, processing (GOOD processing!) included, to use in my restored-like-new, glistening black Calumet C1?

I might bite.

:eek:

But only if there were 4x5 sheets available for me to practice on first 'til I was ready to swallow really, really hard...

Ken

j-dogg
03-22-2012, 12:26 AM
:sideways:

Bring back Kodachrome in sheet sizes and it really would be time for pink champagne on ice!!!:)

Would be a good thing to drink before doing self-portraits using the mirrors on the ceiling. :whistling:

Jedidiah Smith
03-22-2012, 12:59 AM
It just makes sense. This has got to be similar to what companies like ADOX are already doing. It's a production volume issue - Kodak either couldn't or wouldn't spool down fast enough...and nearly lost it all by trying to "hang on" to a non-existent market. They have made some great products, and I will support them whenever I can with my purchases. The more competitive they get, the better the future of film will be.
Heck, if they would just advertise Film's GOOD properties a little, I'm sure you'd see at least hundreds of thousands in the U.S. dust off their film cameras and join the new "too cool to shoot a digicam - so I shoot film" trend. It's all in perception and right now the majority of most sample populations, say my patients (for example) think that digital is "better" than film. It's newer, so it must be, right? New patients are shocked - and I mean blown away when they see the 20x30 B&W print I have my wife's 35mm ADOX CMS20 neg in the office reception area. You can literally keep walking right up and put your nose in it, and the detail increases, it doesn't turn to mush when you stick your nose in it....
You can tell the old timers who "know" photography when they walk up to it and ask her if she shoots LF or Hasselblad. They are in disbelief when they find out it was CMS20 in a Minolta XD-11. :D

Now, if Kodak could get that and other quality information about film out in a way the general population would understand . . . a LOT of people would shoot film again just because it's "cooler" or insert whatever feeling they get here, from the Ads and articles they read on the subject. Nearly every article in every photography magazine, journal, book, online sources, etc claims that digital blows film out of the water. And let's face it, it's good at some things, most of us have used it. But, Kodak needs to do an advertizing blitz about the SOUL of photography and blah, blah about film being awesome...and voila - you will have a run on film, guaranteed. Marketers don't call us all "sheeple" for nothing. They need to get some GOOD PR machines working for them. Believe me, they exist hardcore in this country, I don't know why Kodak is not using them.

I really hope Kodak starts going this way with their production, and we will see film from them for years to come!

Roger Cole
03-22-2012, 01:43 AM
$500 for a box of 10 8x10 sheets of Kodachrome, processing (GOOD processing!) included, to use in my restored-like-new, glistening black Calumet C1?

I might bite.

:eek:

But only if there were 4x5 sheets available for me to practice on first 'til I was ready to swallow really, really hard...

Ken

Fifty bucks a sheet??? Maybe you would, but how many other people are on cra...er, would?

Right now 8x10 is between $8.49 a sheet (Provia 100) and $13.95 (E100G and all gone, but the price is still listed) at B&H. E-Six lab here in Atlanta charges $6 a sheet for 8x10. That makes it between $14.49 and $18.95 per sheet. If I shot 8x10, and I agree the availability of Kodachrome and good processing might be another spur to do so, I could see maybe $10 more at $25, but not $50.

And those figures don't tell the whole story, because I have a Jobo as a lot of other photographers serious enough to shoot LF color probably have that or better, so I could do my own E6 much cheaper. I don't, because I don't shoot it in sheets and it isn't worth the small savings to me in 35mm and 120, but I certainly could.

Sheet film Kodachrome is a pipe dream. I agree, a fun one, but a pipe dream none the less. If we can keep current emulsions and get E6 ones back, maybe some of the most missed black and white (HIE, maybe Plus-X) we'll have plenty of reason to celebrate.

PKM-25
03-22-2012, 01:58 AM
:sideways:

Bring back Kodachrome in sheet sizes and it really would be time for pink champagne on ice!!!:)


Hell, do an annual Kodachrome ULF run for a new giant Kodak brownie called the "Master's Chambers". You walk in, load a 4x5 foot sheet and then puff-tuff.

Don't forget to paint the door handle something other than black though.....else you'll check out any time you want, but you'll never leave....

Ken Nadvornick
03-22-2012, 02:26 AM
Fifty bucks a sheet???

Why not?

What if someone offered you a chance to visit the Titanic in person? Or spend a weekend on the ISS? Or even walk on the moon? Or anything else that maybe you'd have given anything to do in the past, but were born too late to have ever had the chance to try or do?

And then - miraculously - you suddenly and unexpectedly got the chance?

Would you do it? Or would you let a piddly $50 - $25 = $25 stop you dead in your tracks? Freeze you up so hard that you'd stand pat while the chance of a lifetime passed you by? Just stand there quietly and do nothing but watch from the sidelines?

If the age of the Earth were represented by the length of a football field, the average human lifespan would be equal to 1/67th the width of the average human hair. If Kodak were to reintroduce Kodachrome on special order status for 8x10 sheets I'd jump on it so fast I'd probably knock you over. And the comparison shopping price of a sheet of 8x10 Provia 100 could not hold less relevance to me.

Once they close the lid and shovel in the dirt it gets awfully cold and quiet. And stays that way for an awfully long time, my friend...

Ken

PKM-25
03-22-2012, 02:40 AM
Why not?

What if someone offered you a chance to visit the Titanic in person? Or spend a weekend on the ISS? Or even walk on the moon? Or anything else that maybe you'd have given anything to do in the past, but were born too late to have ever had the chance to try or do?

And then - miraculously - you suddenly and unexpectedly got the chance?

Would you do it? Or would you let a piddly $50 - $25 = $25 stop you dead in your tracks? Freeze you up so hard that you'd stand pat while the chance of a lifetime passed you by? Just stand there quietly and do nothing but watch from the sidelines?

If the age of the Earth were represented by the length of a football field, the average human lifespan would be equal to 1/67th the width of the average human hair. If Kodak were to reintroduce Kodachrome on special order status for 8x10 sheets I'd jump on it so fast I'd probably knock you over. And the comparison shopping price of a sheet of 8x10 Provia 100 could not hold less relevance to me.

Once they close the lid and shovel in the dirt it gets awfully cold and quiet. And stays that way for an awfully long time, my friend...

Ken

Nice.... This kind of embodies the entire idea around The Kodachrome Project...no regrets, no regrets...

I'll take 20 sheets, 2 will be total F-ups and the other 18 absolute masterpieces. I even know exactly what I would shoot, I would need a production budget of around a hundred grand...

Roger Cole
03-22-2012, 04:22 AM
Oh I might do it, I might shoot that 8x10 Kodachrome, hell it might even spur me to buy an 8x10 camera. But it would likely be one box and DONE. Then the camera would be used for black and white.

Kodak couldn't continue making it like that.

Lionel1972
03-22-2012, 04:31 AM
If this turns out to be true in the near future, it would be the best news I've heard from Kodak so far! As long as the prices stay affordable and if they start promoting and adverticing the coolness of film, it could become a huge hit and very profitable for Kodak and benefit the whole analogue market.
I've always said that now that Kodachrome is dead, it's the perfect time for a resurrection of Kodachrome in 120 and sheet film! (35mm comeback would be to follow of course).

thegman
03-22-2012, 04:52 AM
To see Kodachrome come back would be very cool, but I'm probably more excited in Vision III making it into a still film like they've done with some other movie stocks.

Alexis M
03-22-2012, 06:24 AM
If this turns out to be true in the near future, it would be the best news I've heard from Kodak so far! As long as the prices stay affordable and if they start promoting and adverticing the coolness of film, it could become a huge hit and very profitable for Kodak and benefit the whole analogue market.
I've always said that now that Kodachrome is dead, it's the perfect time for a resurrection of Kodachrome in 120 and sheet film! (35mm comeback would be to follow of course).

and why wouldn't they now that they canned digital...

zsas
03-22-2012, 06:33 AM
and why wouldn't they now that they canned digital...

Wow that is a great point Alexis! I am hoping this person from Kodak who said this was correct about all this.

Moopheus
03-22-2012, 06:44 AM
Wow that is a great point Alexis! I am hoping this person from Kodak who said this was correct about all this.

Well, she may be as far as she knows, in the sense that "this is what we are working on in the lab." Since she works in LA, presumably her priority is the needs of the movie industry. So who knows how that will translate into actual product availability. On the other hand, time is of the essence for Kodak. EK is BK, so they have to show something that suggests long-term viability of their core businesses.

CGW
03-22-2012, 06:49 AM
Anyone noted the trajectory of demand for film? It doesn't appear to be up, does it?

Still waiting for the OP to post a reference for the speech/address that started all this hyperventilation.

Jean Noire
03-22-2012, 06:50 AM
If this turns out to be true in the near future, it would be the best news I've heard from Kodak so far! As long as the prices stay affordable and if they start promoting and adverticing the coolness of film, it could become a huge hit and very profitable for Kodak and benefit the whole analogue market.
I've always said that now that Kodachrome is dead, it's the perfect time for a resurrection of Kodachrome in 120 and sheet film! (35mm comeback would be to follow of course).

...and now all we need is an announcement that someone (Nikon, Pentax, Leica, Contax, etc.....) will start remanufacturing film cameras. Perhaps we will return to the days when One Hour photo shops traded on the high streets, perhaps enlargers could be produced again!!....., then film manufacture could be a viable proposition?
Sorry, just thinking out aloud.....

John

zsas
03-22-2012, 06:53 AM
Anyone noted the trajectory of demand for film? It doesn't appear to be up, does it?

Still waiting for the OP to post a reference for the speech/address that started all this hyperventilation.


Hey now, I thought you were in? Ostrich and all?! If it works out it does, if it doesnt well this employee should probably learn to not theorize possible bus strategy in a open forum....reguardless it is fun to dream....reguardless if it is reality or not