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Kevin Caulfield
12-14-2004, 09:12 PM
1. First light will presumably be around 5 am. Last light should be around 9 pm.
2. The Southbank and casino area is a very central location possibility, so should be reasonably easy for people to get to. CBD has a lot of photographic potential. First light over the Yarra looking towards the city usually works.
3. Plenty of food and drink options in the same area.
4. I'm 99.9% certain at this stage.

Any other ideas for venues????

Graeme Hird
12-14-2004, 10:34 PM
I'm a certainty (unless I'm dead, in which case I'll be there in spirit).

First light shots of the CBD over the Yarra with rowers sound fine to me (I've had one in my head for many years - from about the tennis centre taking in the art centre and the CBD .... could be a good opportunity to make it a reality).

I think Kevin and/or Nige will need to choose the refreshment venues - I'm likely to choose my old favourite Chinese: Nam Loongs in Russel St. Not very classy, but great food. I don't even know if it's still there ....

For later referrence (ie if I forget) my mobile number is 0408 95 11 76.

Cheers,

Nige
12-15-2004, 06:42 PM
5am to 9pm is a full day.. 3 meals at least in that lot :) Macca's for breakfast, HJ's for lunch and Pizza Hut for tea... how's that for fine dining cuisine! Maybe not! I'm up for a decent meal of chinese!

99.9% certain too... 99.99% certain I won't manage 5am to 9pm though! I better check with my 'tour director' what hours I'm actually allowed out.

Location wise, the edge of the Yarra makes a good meeting place as it's gots lots of open space to setup a LF camera without getting in peoples way, etc. I'm heading out today to buy a backpack to convert into a camera bag to be able to bring mine along. Got my wood tripod, so will look the part even if I can't take a decent pic!

Is everyone going to be tote'ting a tripod? Small camera users might have different expectations to the LF guys, especially in manoeuvrability... the other times I've done this I've taken my 35mm gear and we were pretty mobile, covering a lot of ground. Having meet-up times and locations during the day can let everyone explore at their own pace, but then reconveining allows for storytelling, etc. One needs energy food to cart this gear around anyway!


BTW, Graeme... you not related to James Hird the footballer are you?

David
12-17-2004, 12:07 AM
The 2nd sounds pretty good. I just finished a photographic canoe trip down the Yarra from the headwaters to Port Melbourne. Took the 8x20, 11x14, 8x10 and a 5x7 back. Melbourne Docklands is also a nice spot, not as busy and almost as close but downhill from the CBD. There's also the area just across from Federation Square, a bit more relaxing (just upstream from the Princess Bridge. Are you serious about 5:00am? I thought there was only one 5:00 in a day. And besides, to start shooting at 5:00am requires a start a fair bit before the light hits.

Kevin Caulfield
12-17-2004, 12:42 AM
I'll bring a tripod, but I'm just an MFer. I've done the 5 am sunrise a couple of times. But I did it contre jour, so I was facing east on a bridge at Kings Way, with the city to the left of frame and Southbank and casino to the right, and the rising sun shining over the river in the middle. Graeme, that view you're thinking about is I would guess, facing more north-westerly, so the sun is rising behind your right shoulder. But yeah, there are several good places to check out along the Yarra, without getting in the way of people.

Graeme Hird
12-18-2004, 07:10 AM
Nige,

If the three way progressive fat attack is all that's on offer, Melbourne has regressed more than I thought!:) I'm sure the fine dining will be under control on the day.

I am distantly related to James and it shows - I'm also ruggedly good-looking, rich, versatile and well respected in the public's perception. ;) Wanna buy a bridge?

Kevin, you are correct in your assumption of where I want to be (though I'm imagining at this time of the year the sun will be over my left shoulder at sunrise.) I'm thinking the CBD on frame right, Yarra as a leading line from lower left to Princes Bridge, with the Art Centre spire on the left frame edge, preferably with a rowing crew moving down stream into the shot (say at lower third intersection). That's the plan, anyway. We'll see how close I get to it (if we even decide to be there at that time).

David, are you likely to come along? I'd really love to see one of those BIG cameras you've got.

Tripod goes without saying, but it will only be my little one. The other is a surveyor's tripod which I only use when I'm shooting from the car.

I reckon an easy place to meet would be on the bank of the Yarra opposite the swimming centre in Batman Avenue (Beaurepair?). My memory and progress might have thwarted my description here.

And yes, I'm serious about the very early start. There are two good times of the day for available light shooting - why remove 50% of the options for the sake of a warm bed? Life's too short .... However, if you guys want to sleep in and meet later that's fine. I'll tell you all about it at the pub. :)

I'll do a little research and narrow down times and angles a bit soon.

Cheers,

Graeme Hird
12-18-2004, 07:27 AM
Sunrise for Melbourne, 02/01/05 = 6.02am, azimuth=119 degrees

Sunset = 20.46pm, Azimuth = 240 degrees

(Source is http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.html)

Nige
12-18-2004, 04:03 PM
holy mackeral... wot time do I need to be there for 6:02 sunrise... just working out if I go clubbing overnight :)

David
12-18-2004, 07:10 PM
Yes, I'll be there. Should we exchange mobile phone numbers? It might make the final meeting up a bit easier.

roteague
12-19-2004, 01:25 PM
Do they have a Starbucks in Melbourne these days?

Kevin Caulfield
12-19-2004, 04:25 PM
Unfortunately yes.

John McCallum
12-19-2004, 04:33 PM
Melb has such great coffee cafes too. DeGraves (on Degraves St) is a definate favourite.

Glenn Mathison
12-19-2004, 07:59 PM
Is everyone going to be tote'ting a tripod? Small camera users might have different expectations to the LF guys, especially in manoeuvrability... the other times I've done this I've taken my 35mm gear and we were pretty mobile, covering a lot of ground. Having meet-up times and locations during the day can let everyone explore at their own pace, but then reconveining allows for storytelling, etc.

I will have a modest tripod with me for the MF kit. And I'll have a 35mm as well for the "Melb APUG meet mug shots" :)

Just found out this morning that I have to go to NYC from Jan 7 - 14 for work, so there is extra pressure now on family time. I'd still rate my chances of attending as "high"

Glenn

Kevin Caulfield
12-20-2004, 12:50 AM
Melb has such great coffee cafes too. DeGraves (on Degraves St) is a definate favourite.

Better than Starbucks, John??? ;)

John McCallum
12-20-2004, 02:31 PM
Better than Starbucks, John??? ;)He he, 'fraid so .... even better than S.B.! Knock your socks off better!! ;)

Graeme Hird
12-21-2004, 09:21 PM
By now, all who are coming have received PMs with phone numbers. We still haven't finalised a time and place.

Kevin, of the Melbourne residents you seem to be the most certain of being there. I nominate you to decide where and when to meet. Whatever you decide, I'll be there. I'm available from 5.00am to 9.00pm.

Cheers,

Kevin Caulfield
12-21-2004, 09:34 PM
Thanks for the PM with the phone numbers, Graeme.

I'll join you for sunrise, and I'm happy to start at the place you described. So, if sunrise is just after 6 am, then meet around 5.30 to 5.45 am opposite the swimming centre (on the same side of the Yarra, right?)?? How does that sound? So, anybody who wants to shoot the sunrise, that's where we'll be, and then go wandering after that.

Regards,
Kevin

Glenn Mathison
12-22-2004, 05:46 AM
Sounds good. With outstanding support from wife, my will-be-there-rating has bounced back to 95%.

Will confirm for sure probably dec 28 or 29.

Nige
12-22-2004, 06:10 AM
Kevin, can you post an "artists interpretation" of the Melways map of the spot your talking about... I'll need all the help I can to find it in the dark! :)

David
12-22-2004, 04:09 PM
Sounds good, I'm in. Should we bring some examples of work too? I would enjoy seeing others work.