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railwayman3
08-27-2012, 03:58 AM
I've bought these Kodak batteries from the UK pound store (actually 11 in the pack I got, "10 plus one extra free"!). They're the old-fashioned zinc chloride type (says that on the packet, also "Made in China, extra heavy duty for low power products"). So, basically, just cheap-and-cheerful!

But is this really the sort of product Kodak should be putting out or licencing under what was once a top quality US brand names?? IDK?

The same store has been selling Kodak Color Plus (24 exp) and Agfa Vista 200(36 exp) (the latter clearly made by Fuji) for 1....a good buy, particularly the Agfa! !

Steve Smith
08-27-2012, 04:01 AM
You're right. Ten plus one, not twelve!


extra heavy duty for low power products

How does that work?!!


Steve.

railwayman3
08-27-2012, 04:12 AM
How does that work?!!


Steve.

Dunno!! :confused:

(Seriously, the old zinc chlorides are OK for things like clocks and remotes which take very little power, maybe small pocket torches. Hopeless for anything with a motor or high-drain like flash or digital cameras. So users who don't realise this or read the packet could blame Kodak for selling rubbish!
Particularly when good alkaline batteries can be bought for 4 or 6 for 1 (the Kodak alkalines at that price are quite OK, but not perhaps up to the brand leaders in my humble experience).

Roger Cole
08-27-2012, 05:25 AM
they sell polaroid batteries at my local neighborhood JUNK STORE.

And the Kodak chemicals are as good as they ever were. This means absolutely nothing. It just means that the transferred name isn't a guarantee of the same quality, true enough, but neither is it a guarantee of lesser quality.

Diapositivo
08-27-2012, 05:42 AM
And the Kodak chemicals are as good as they ever were. This means absolutely nothing. It just means that the transferred name isn't a guarantee of the same quality, true enough, but neither is it a guarantee of lesser quality.

It means bad marketing because it violates rule number 1: you don't devalue a brand using it for low-quality products, if you use that brand also for average-quality, or high-quality photos.

In the case of Kodak it is even worse as the brand Kodas has a strong photographic connotation, people would buy Kodak batteries to power their cameras or their flashes. If the batteries are unfit for photographic apparati, branding them Kodak is a (big) mistake. Don't forget that is supposed to be "the imaging company" not "the battery company".

If Kodak produces both high-end ink-jet inks fit for photographic prints and lower-end ink-jet inks unfit for "imaging", it should brand the latter in a different way. Whatever is branded "Kodak" is branded "the imaging company".

Roger Cole
08-27-2012, 06:09 AM
I hear you, I'm just saying that the implication I got from the post was because the batteries weren't good, spun off but still sold as Kodak film would not be the quality we are used to either, and I don't think one can conclude that at all. In fact it's almost certain it would be made on the same machines by the same people.

mikendawn
08-27-2012, 06:10 AM
Kodak... Sticking it to the little guy since 2004!

Bend over, we have batteries for you.. And when we're all done, we'll spray our cheap ink in your hair....
There's some good news... Ilford hasn't tried to expand their horizons to include making cheap laser printers with even cheaper toner for B&W prints. :)

Curt
08-27-2012, 07:28 AM
Where did Bell and Howell go? From a decent company to a cheap gadget provider. Polaroid ended up making cheap DVD players.

ME Super
08-27-2012, 09:16 AM
In the UK we have 1 stores (everything costs 1). The bargain batteries (pack of 12 for 1) are branded Kodak. They last about five minutes.

Steve.

Here in the States, I've bought the Kodak branded pre-charged rechargeable AA batteries for the digi P&S. The rechargeable batteries which aren't the pre-charged ones (doesn't matter if they're Kodak brand or not) only hold a sufficient charge for a digi P&S for about a week. The pre-charged Kodak ones will hold their charge for months.

Photo Engineer
08-27-2012, 09:35 AM
I have had the worst luck with Kodak batteries. I even saved some in a sealed package that burst before I could use them. IDK if they have improved but the ones I have had were awful. I've said this before here on APUG.

PE

mikendawn
08-27-2012, 10:50 AM
I used KODAK Batteries once... 5 minutes in my XBOX Controller and it was already spinning circles...
WTF is that?

I had those stupid Red Everready batteries last longer than than!

Oh Kodak... how far you have strayed..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cplAJ20y7ks&playnext=1&list=PL1BD3AD12FA427AFC&feature=results_main

Felinik
08-27-2012, 11:14 AM
Kodak, batteries?

Batteries are produced by:

VARTA
ENERGIZER
DURACELL
PANASONIC/SANYO

batwister
08-27-2012, 12:44 PM
Let's make a written list of everything Kodak has and is doing wrong. Does anybody have discount at a paper factory?

PKM-25
08-27-2012, 01:03 PM
Let's make a written list of everything Kodak has and is doing wrong. Does anybody have discount at a paper factory?

Nah, let's not...

Instead, let's go out and shoot some film, showing any potential buyers of Kodak Consumer Film who their customer is.

DREW WILEY
08-27-2012, 01:12 PM
Felinik - yeah, Kodak made batteries. I tried them once. There are also quite a number of Chinese counterfeiters of batteries right now - they sometimes get deliberatedly mixed into shipments of the real brand by unscrupulous importers, just like counterfeit auto parts.

Ian Grant
08-27-2012, 01:14 PM
Better to post what Koadk's doing right from our collective APUG point of view.

Making film seems to be no 1, distributing Champion made Kodak chemistry might be another. The downside is poor distribution by the corporate giant making products hard to buy leaving the sales to competitors.

Ian

Prof_Pixel
08-27-2012, 01:18 PM
- yeah, Kodak made batteries. I tried them once.

To the best of my knowledge, Kodak never actually made any of the batteries that carry their name. A battery company was spun off from Kodak - Ultralife Batteries, which makes a wide variety of Lithium based cells.

Steve Smith
08-27-2012, 01:20 PM
A battery company was spun off from Kodak - Ultralife Batteries, which makes a wide variety of Lithium based cells.

The batteries I bought are not lithium. More like a potato with copper and zinc electrodes pushed in.


Steve.

Ken Nadvornick
08-27-2012, 01:26 PM
Nah, let's not...

Instead, let's go out and shoot some film, showing any potential buyers of Kodak Consumer Film who their customer is.

Actually I spent all of this past weekend exposing film at the state fair. And I'll repeat that next weekend. Then into the darkroom.

Also met a very nice fellow who noticed my camera and came over to chat. He was an ex-professional photographer who had stopped working five years earlier, sold all of his camera equipment, and now was getting the itch to return specifically to film for personal work. He even expressed an interest in dye transfer printing. I'm not sure where the dye transfer process is at these days, but I let him take a look at my GF670 folder and pointed him right back here to APUG.

A scaled down post-Kodak could still make some money at this stuff if they really, really wanted to...

Ken

RattyMouse
08-27-2012, 01:47 PM
I have had the worst luck with Kodak batteries. I even saved some in a sealed package that burst before I could use them. IDK if they have improved but the ones I have had were awful. I've said this before here on APUG.

PE

I used to use Kodak CR123 batteries and never remember having problems. Maybe those were the ones you designed PE? They worked pretty good!