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Bob Carnie
09-11-2012, 03:25 PM
Was not Scala film APX 100??

Henning Serger
09-11-2012, 03:27 PM
Drew, Agfa Copex Rapid made by Agfa-Gevaert can hold 14 stops (if You need), on top of that., Copex Rapid is finer grained and sharper than Efke 25 and is faster.

That's right, you get that if you develop Agfa Copex Rapid in its dedicated developer Spur Modular UR New. I can confirm this from my intensive tests and years of practical shooting with this film and other films in this range.
It and its 'brother' Adox CMS 20 II (Agfa-Gevaert HDP) is outstanding material in combination with their dedicated developers.

Getting the 14 stops range (or even more) is, as others here have already said, possible with several films. It is more the question of the right film - developer combination. Use a developer which delivers a straight linear curve, like DD-X for example, and you will get that range.



I expect Adox Silvermax to be like a faster brother to Copex Rapid and having its own character.

Well, not its brother, both films are quite different. Silvermax is similar to Agfa APX 100 (which is good news in my opinion; APX 100 being one of the finest emulsions with classic cubic crystal structure).

Best regards,
Henning

Henning Serger
09-11-2012, 03:32 PM
Was not Scala film APX 100??

Bob, the Scala 200X emulsion is based on the APX 100 emulsion. The spectral sensivity is absolutely identical.
Besides the clear base of Scala 200X Agfa has also modified the emulsion a little bit for best performance in the Scala reversal process.

Best regards,
Henning

Bob Carnie
09-11-2012, 03:35 PM
I thought so .. I was told this by a friend in Agfa years ago, I also used Scala to make contact dupes when making enlarged negs for pt pd. Worked very well.
I have always liked this film.



Bob, the Scala 200X emulsion is based on the APX 100 emulsion. The spectral sensivity is absolutely identical.
Besides the clear base of Scala 200X Agfa has also modified the emulsion a little bit for best performance in the Scala reversal process.

Best regards,
Henning

Henning Serger
09-11-2012, 03:47 PM
Worked very well.
I have always liked this film.

Bob, then you will probably like Silvermax, too (by the way, Scala 200X is still available, e.g. at Fotoimpex).

Best regards,
Henning

Michel Hardy-Vallée
09-11-2012, 09:33 PM
it´s a 35mm film. Usually in shooting 35mm you end up with a lot of different contrast situations on the same roll.
The more your film can capture in the first place, the more you can later decide what to bring to your paper (by burning and dodging).
Also "some" people scan today nd the chips can capture this range. The film is especially well suited for scanning due to it´s clear base.
And last but not least, as mentioned above, if developed to a transparency, in the projection you can see it all.

Mirko

Maybe that's what you should explain this on your product page, instead of capitalizing on the "14 zones/silver rich" which taps into hobbyists' insecurities.

Mahler_one
09-11-2012, 10:22 PM
Thanks Mirko.

Can you provide any guidance about when the new 400 ASA film might be available- especially in 8x10 sheets?

Elliot

Ektagraphic
09-12-2012, 06:16 AM
Hello Patrick,

no, it has not been made by Fotokemika. This film is one result of the cooperation between Adox and InovisCoat.

The film is currently in the test phase here in my lab. First results look good. The spectral sensivity of this film is identical to the Agfa APX 100.

Best regards,
Henning

That's really interesting. Thanks. I am looking forward to all that ADOX seems to be doing in the days that others seem to be looking to walk away from analog! Thank you ADOX!

Bundesphotograph
09-12-2012, 06:21 AM
Thanks Mirko.

Can you provide any guidance about when the new 400 ASA film might be available- especially in 8x10 sheets?

Elliot

On the Adox Website:

+++ PAN 400 is ready for production but due to the sudden changes at Fotokemika who manufactured the CHS line of films for us we had to prioritize and decided to invest in the remanufacturing of a 100 ASA material at first+++

http://www.adox.de/english/ADOX%20Films/Premium/ADOX-PAN-400/PAN400.html

Mahler_one
09-12-2012, 09:51 PM
Thanks. I hadn't visited the web site recently.

Elliot

Thomas Bertilsson
09-12-2012, 10:03 PM
I sent Freestyle an email, asking about the new film, and here is what Marv replied:

"Thank you for your e-mail. Our executives will be looking at this product at Photokina and it will be approximately 90 days if they decide to go with the product."

So it's 'wait and see'.

waynecrider
09-13-2012, 10:14 AM
Maybe that's what you should explain this on your product page, instead of capitalizing on the "14 zones/silver rich" which taps into hobbyists' insecurities.

The first thing I thought of was digital output. I don't wet print.

Bateleur
09-14-2012, 02:11 AM
Congratulations Adox! I'm looking forward to using this new film, since having used APX100 recently for the first time I was delighted by the results.....

Felinik
09-14-2012, 03:02 AM
Congratulations Adox! I'm looking forward to using this new film, since having used APX100 recently for the first time I was delighted by the results.....

Nice shot!

What is the recipe for the dev of that?

:P

(I have about 8 more rolls of APX-100 in the fridge, and thinking about diggin up another bulk roll or three....)

georg16nik
09-14-2012, 01:46 PM
Looks like the wheel is rolling, we've got a hint about the price per film and for 10 canisters...
http://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/filme-films/schwarzweissfilmeblackwhite-films/kleinbildfilme-13535mm-films/adox-silvermax-sw-film-mit-hohem-silbergehaltbradox-silvermax-bw-film-with-high-silver-content.html

georg16nik
09-14-2012, 02:23 PM
57150
Dev times @ 20°C.
ADONAL/Rodinal 1+25: 8 Min.
ADONAL/Rodinal 1+50: 12 Min.
ATOMAL: 8-10 Min.
D 76/ID 11: 9 Min.
HC-110: 7 Min.
FX-39: 8 Min.
XTOL: 7 Min.

http://www.adox.de/ADOX_Filme/Premium%20Line%20Films/Silvermax/Silvermax.html

Thomas Bertilsson
09-14-2012, 02:43 PM
Would you look at that!

Compare that spectral sensitivity to the APX 100 and Scala. It's EXACTLY the same.

pentaxuser
09-14-2012, 03:13 PM
Looks like the wheel is rolling, we've got a hint about the price per film and for 10 canisters...
http://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/filme-films/schwarzweissfilmeblackwhite-films/kleinbildfilme-13535mm-films/adox-silvermax-sw-film-mit-hohem-silbergehaltbradox-silvermax-bw-film-with-high-silver-content.html

Thanks for the link. Converting the price in euros to pounds sterling (GBP) it looks to be very competitively priced

pentaxuser

zsas
09-14-2012, 03:49 PM
^Agree! Today that is $4.15?!!

Richard Sintchak (rich815)
09-14-2012, 04:36 PM
Would you look at that!

Compare that spectral sensitivity to the APX 100 and Scala. It's EXACTLY the same.

Uh huh.