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Simonh82
10-05-2012, 11:09 AM
Hello, a few weeks ago as part of the thread on Fotokemika's demise (http://www.apug.org/forums/forum390/108560-fotokemika-6.html) Simon Galley said that he would look in to the feasibility of a true IR film being made by Ilford.

Is there any word on this? I am sure I am not alone when I say that the thought of having a true IR film, made with the high standards and QC that is inherent in all Ilford products would be really exciting. I know the chances of this are slim but would like to say that you would have a ready buyer in me and i'm sure many people here on APUG.

Any news would be appreciated.

rawhead
10-05-2012, 01:32 PM
Nothing to add, except +1 from me, especially now that Efke IR820/Aura is going to be gone very soon.

Jeff Kubach
10-05-2012, 03:01 PM
I for one would like see Ilford do this!

Jeff

Roger Cole
10-05-2012, 03:19 PM
+2 or +3 or whatever. I'd always meant to get around to doing some IR but hadn't - then the Efke news hit. I've stocked up on IR820 but "stock up" means probably just enough to start getting the hang of it. I bet Ilford could make a film that's more sensitive too, more like HIE than IR820. That would be great. As soon as existing stock of IR820 dry up, including the additional shipment Freestyle expects, the Rollei will be the only IR film available, and it isn't that much different from the Ilford SFX. (But it is available in sheets, albeit reportedly annoyingly thin hard to deal with sheets.)

Scott Gibson
10-05-2012, 03:41 PM
Just going to throw my two cents in here and say that I too would love to see Ilford release a "true" IR film. I can't speak for others, but if a high-quality, true-IR film were available new I'd even be willing to fork over $20 a roll for it if I had to - heck, people are already paying more than that for long-expired HIE!

Roger Cole
10-05-2012, 03:55 PM
Yep. I just bought 10 rolls of 120 IR820 at $14.49 per roll. If I could get something more like HIE with Ilford quality, $20 would be acceptable.

In all honesty I'd probably only buy maybe 5-10 rolls a year, or maybe a 50 sheet box of 4x5, if available, every couple of years, but I think I'd buy that much.

Bob Carnie
10-05-2012, 04:05 PM
My wife would leave me for Simon Galley if Ilford made a IR film that was like Kodaks.

BradleyK
10-05-2012, 04:14 PM
Just going to throw my two cents in here and say that I too would love to see Ilford release a "true" IR film. I can't speak for others, but if a high-quality, true-IR film were available new I'd even be willing to fork over $20 a roll for it if I had to - heck, people are already paying more than that for long-expired HIE!

+1. I, too, would love the opportunity to shoot some real IR. While SFX is unique in its own way, it just does not give me quite image I am looking for. Given Ilford's quality, I would have no objection to paying a premium for it. Simon G, anything further on the issue to share with us:confused:?

iulian
10-05-2012, 04:25 PM
I would also buy it if it was true IR (native blue sensitivity and IR dye, not panchromatic wit a bit of NIR thrown in for good measure). We have semi-IR solutions from Rollei and Ilford already. It should be easier to make the emulsion adsorb just the IR sensitizing dye instead of all the dyes needed for PAN and also some dye for IR.
This would also derail my plan to standardize on Acros/Delta 100 and Rollei IR, but I'm willing to live with that ;)

Ken Nadvornick
10-05-2012, 04:26 PM
My wife would leave me for Simon Galley if Ilford made a IR film that was like Kodaks.

:eek:

Ken

Rob_5419
10-06-2012, 05:28 AM
My wife would leave me for Simon Galley if Ilford made a IR film that was like Kodaks.

Simon is a busy man. She'd have to be worth her weight in silver ...halides!

Go Ilford go! Ilford Pan F+ with extended IR sensitivity to 950nm in 120roll (35mm midgets get a release 1 year later of course).

We're not asking for much :)

Dave Swinnard
10-06-2012, 12:23 PM
Go Ilford go! Ilford Pan F+ with extended IR sensitivity to 950nm in 120roll (35mm midgets get a release 1 year later of course). We're not asking for much :)

While we're asking for stuff (hey, Christmas is coming...) How about true IR in 4x5? I shot with Kodak's in the '80s and loved it. Didn't use it often, but sometimes it was just the right thing. I'd buy some again. (but I would take the 120 if offered too)

rawhead
10-06-2012, 03:10 PM
Yes, 4x5 and 120; I need 'em both! I currently have 25 sheets of expired HIE (still good), 130 or so sheets of IR820, and just a couple rolls of IR820 Auras in the fridge... The HIE is so nice because I can shoot it handheld with my Speed Graphic..!

Roger Cole
10-06-2012, 03:53 PM
I laid in 15 rolls of 120 IR820 at the news, about all I felt like buying of a film I've never shot that cost $12 (first 5 rolls I bought) and then $14.49 (10 more rolls) each. None in 4x5. If Freestyle gets some in for that last shipment I may get some. Thing is, I have normal screw in IR72 filters for my 35mm and MF cameras. Two of my three 4x5 lenses are odd sizes though and I use a 3x3 filter holder. I don't have a red #25 or 29 either as I find I don't one stronger than a 23 with normal film, but that won't cut it with these IR films, so I'd have to do something about that.

I'm sure I would if I could get Ilford IR. As it is with only Rollei in 4x5...meh. I would probably just stick to medium format, maybe some 35mm.

winger
10-07-2012, 07:49 AM
While we're asking for stuff (hey, Christmas is coming...) How about true IR in 4x5? I shot with Kodak's in the '80s and loved it. Didn't use it often, but sometimes it was just the right thing. I'd buy some again. (but I would take the 120 if offered too)

I never had the chance to shoot 4x5 IR, so I'd really love to now.

Jeff Bannow
10-07-2012, 08:53 AM
I would also buy some in 4x5 and 120.

mono
10-07-2012, 08:57 AM
Me too!

Rob_5419
10-07-2012, 08:59 AM
To be honest, I'm retired, and happy if Ilford don't retire any film products.

A new film product from Ilford will be truly exciting. I can't remember any recent new film products, other than format size adjustments for marketing.

Preferable 'extreme' or specialist niche: extreme IR; or extreme slow grain IR film like Pan IR F+ ; not just medium grain FP4+ used as a substrate. Or even extreme speed (Ilford Delta 3200 sensitised to 850nm would be). Please don't make it another FP4+ with extended red sensitivity to another 100nm. That would be the definition of Kodak: an anti-climax. Unless it was in sheet film ....hmmm maybe then it would be exciting :)

polyglot
10-07-2012, 09:52 PM
New emulsion be damned, I'd settle for 4x5" sheets of SFX200. A lot less technology risk for Ilford and therefore IMHO more likely to happen.

However, I do have a good stash of IR820 (~10 rolls and 200 sheets) so I'm not in nearly as much hurry as others might be. And I'm so glad I shot a bunch of it while I was in Mongolia!

iulian
10-08-2012, 03:34 AM
There are cheaper alternatives to SFX, including in 4x5 sheets. A true IR film would be the best thing since sliced bread :)