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Alan W
10-26-2012, 08:12 PM
I've been interested in the pentax auto 110 for a while now and finally took the plunge and bought one with 3 lenses for a very reasonable price.Now that I've looked and marvelled at the size(or lack of) I've decided to use it,if I can,with self loaded 16mm black and white film.I have no experience whatsoever in the 110 department,but I believe that a 110 cartridge can be opened and loaded with 16mm film in the dark.I've googled some stuff related to this on the net and some of it is helpful and some not,for the members here I have some questions-in the hope that someone here has actually done what I'm planning to do.Buying unperforated 16mm film,getting some 110 cartridges and rigging the pentax auto 110 to shoot the stuff.I can modify a patterson reel to fit 16mm.recommendations for 100-400 speed film.Any experience,suggestions etc would be appreciated.

graflexboy
10-27-2012, 02:46 AM
I've been interested in the pentax auto 110 for a while now and finally took the plunge and bought one with 3 lenses for a very reasonable price.Now that I've looked and marvelled at the size(or lack of) I've decided to use it,if I can,with self loaded 16mm black and white film.I have no experience whatsoever in the 110 department,but I believe that a 110 cartridge can be opened and loaded with 16mm film in the dark.I've googled some stuff related to this on the net and some of it is helpful and some not,for the members here I have some questions-in the hope that someone here has actually done what I'm planning to do.Buying unperforated 16mm film,getting some 110 cartridges and rigging the pentax auto 110 to shoot the stuff.I can modify a patterson reel to fit 16mm.recommendations for 100-400 speed film.Any experience,suggestions etc would be appreciated.

Hi there. Welcome to the world of 110! I have a Pentax Auto 110. They are amazingly sharp shooters!

If you want to jump in and take pics without reloading (a bit tricky, some cartridges don't snap open where you want) there is a black-and-white 110 film being sold now. It's the Lomography (gasp, I know) 110 Orca B&W film. It is 100 speed.

I bought 2 carts, shot, but not yet developed, so I'm no help on results.

Back to reloads:

Note--if you use 16mm double perf film, your Pentax may try to stop film advance at each perforation. Plus, you'll lose some image area due to the perfs along one edge.

I used non-perforated 16mm film. I actually used some microfilm (Agfa Copex Rapid, I think). Needs special low contrast developer as this is very high contrast film otherwise, meant for copying archive documents.

There is TONS of info on these Yahoo Groups:
SUBMINI-L
110respoolers

Also at
www.subclub.org http://www.subclub.org/darkroom/darkroom.htm
www.submin.com
http://www.submin.com/
photo.net (on the Minox forumhttp://www.photo.net/minox-camera-forum/)

EDIT: These cameras really only "read" 2 film speeds. This is from a notch (or lack of notch) on the right edge of the cartridge. This explains the how & why:
http://retinarescue.com/110cassette.html

And there's a bunch more, I'm sure. I'm posting this from my phone--hard to remember all my bookmarks that are on the laptop!

PM me if you like. I'm no authority, but I'll try to help.

--Micah in NC

Alan W
10-27-2012, 06:58 AM
Thanks for the links Micah-I hadn't seen them before.I'm interested in loading my own film into a 110 cartridge.Do some open easier than others?

jnanian
10-27-2012, 07:07 AM
hi alan

someone here on apug posted this
http://www.apug.org/forums/members/murray-kelly-albums-reloading-110-cartridges.html

it really isn't hard once you open the cassette ;)

good luck !
john

nexus757
10-27-2012, 09:21 AM
Unlike many 110 cameras the Pentax auto 110 does not require perforations in the film, so you can pretty easily slit down 35mm film to 16mm and reload old cartridges. You can do it without the backing paper, but re-using old backing paper is even better. An article about this is here: http://subclub.org/darkroom/roll110.htm I use the "Al Spoil" film slitters: http://www.subclub.org/sponsors/goathil2.htm You see them on ebay pretty often. It helps avoid emulsion scratches if you pull a second, already slit film, under the emulsion as you slit.

graflexboy
10-27-2012, 11:05 AM
John & nexus757 are correct.

I used film reloads sold by Joe McGloin at Goat Hill Photo before I was brave enough to try sitting my own strips.

When you slit film, get a length of wooden dowel rod or cut a notch in a yardstick's edge to be a film length guide. Measure your old film strip when you crack open a 110 cassette. Probably about 18"?

I also wanted to say the Pentax takes 2 throws of the film advance lever for each frame.

--Micah

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graflexboy
10-27-2012, 01:14 PM
Thanks for the links Micah-I hadn't seen them before.I'm interested in loading my own film into a 110 cartridge.Do some open easier than others?

Yes, some say Kodak carts are more difficult to open. I think the Walgreens or Konica seemed to open better. Not sure on Fuji, I use them for the factory loaded film.

Micah in NC