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R.Gould
01-15-2013, 05:58 AM
Another very good mail order and on line supplier in the U.K. is Firstcall Photographic in Taunton
Richard

BMbikerider
01-15-2013, 09:02 AM
I will give First Call a big Thumbs Up. As lest as inexpensive as most and quite a bit less expensive than some. I nearly always deal with them now, they can supply almost anything I need.

I do shop around but nearly always come back to them.

AG is about the cheapest for Fibre based B&W paper though

pentaxuser
01-15-2013, 09:48 AM
One of the real advantages of Firstcall if you buy bulky items such as 5Ls of developer and fixer or even just a few packages of paper is its standard postage charge. Postal charges these days add on a lot.

pentaxuser

R.Gould
01-15-2013, 11:18 AM
I will give First Call a big Thumbs Up. As lest as inexpensive as most and quite a bit less expensive than some. I nearly always deal with them now, they can supply almost anything I need.

I do shop around but nearly always come back to them.

AG is about the cheapest for Fibre based B&W paper though

For all papers, both FB and RC check out Silverprint, a lot of their paper and film is cheaper then AG, also their carriage is one of the cheapest around, to Jersey, where I am it is only around 8, almosthalf the price of AG, which charge me 13.50p
Richard

benjiboy
01-15-2013, 11:36 AM
On-line shopping is killing bricks and mortar shops H.M.V. have just gone in to administration too with 4,500 jobs at risk http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jan/15/hmv-administrators-4500-jobs-at-risk even the high-street giants are by no means immune, who would have ever thought Woolworths and many other household names would go tits up, and it still continues more than thirty chain store shops a day are closing at the moment in Britain, and when they are all gone the general public will wonder what happened to them.

railwayman3
01-15-2013, 11:38 AM
Looks like HMV are set to disappear from the UK's High Streets too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21021073


Steve.

The newpaper today says that "the current CEO of HMV was previously the boss of Jessops"....don't know if that's accurate, or exactly what it proves....

paul_c5x4
01-15-2013, 12:30 PM
On-line shopping is killing bricks and mortar shops H.M.V. have just gone in to administration too.

HMV also has (or is that had) an online retail presence that did a significant amount of business. But it is more likely downloads of music & videos for peanuts/free has killed the core of their operation.

Are we up for a sweepstake on the next highstreet retailer to go to the wall ?

batwister
01-15-2013, 01:05 PM
Are we up for a sweepstake on the next highstreet retailer to go to the wall ?

It's like the Oscars! Or is that the Razzies?

Currys - best leading electronic retailer.
Maplin - best supporting electronic retailer.

In Memoriam: Jessops (1935-2013), HMV (1921-2013)

I suppose we should only be mourning.


I think the biggest concern regarding Jessops and its impact on photography is what one staff member from the Warrington store said in the paper (on the public paying their condolences) 'They were saying it's now almost impossible to get your photos printed in the centre of town.'

That nobody prints anymore - even holiday photos - is what troubles me most about photography amongst the masses. I don't care if digital photographs belong on the screen, ultimately, people not printing affects the value placed on traditional photography and the art.

benjiboy
01-15-2013, 01:30 PM
HMV also has (or is that had) an online retail presence that did a significant amount of business. But it is more likely downloads of music & videos for peanuts/free has killed the core of their operation.

Are we up for a sweepstake on the next highstreet retailer to go to the wall ?

Just as voters get the government they deserve, shoppers get the high-street they deserve, soon they won't be able to use the high-street as a place of demonstration and to handle the goods then buy them off the internet.

perkeleellinen
01-15-2013, 02:34 PM
On HMV, this may be of interest: http://www.philipbeeching.com/2012/08/why-companies-fail-rise-and-fall-of-hmv.html

steven_e007
01-15-2013, 03:18 PM
Just as voters get the government they deserve, shoppers get the high-street they deserve, soon they won't be able to use the high-street as a place of demonstration and to handle the goods then buy them off the internet.

Yes, but I stopped visiting Jessops a long time ago when they decided they were no longer interested in selling to me and chose to become a digital widget retailer instead. That was down to them, not me.

HMV lost my custom when they decided they were no longer music shops and became DVD / Blueray and computer games console distributers and squashed what little music they did stock into the bottom corner of the shop.

I went intio HMV at Christmas. It was heaving, uncomfortable, noisy, had massive queues, was noisy, had nothing I wanted and was noisy. Alas, the long queues seem not to have helped them...
I went home and found what I wanted on Amazon - a much better experience all round - and you can preview the tracks on the album, something HMV stopped years go...

Personally I hate visiting shopping centres, now. Once you get past the age of being interested in what clothes you wear (actually, I never was....) then for a guy there is virtually nothing of any interest at all in a modern town centre or mall. They are mostly full of women's fashion shops, about the only shops left where the customer wants to look, feel and try on the merchandice. I might find a DIY or computer shop at the retail park - but there is nothing at all for me in the twn or high-street anymore.

I don't think that's because I've got the town centre I deserve - I just think that greedy landlords want huge rents, greedy government wants huge business rate payments - times are hard and the few huge companies who own virtually every shop in every town aren't interested in selling to the likes of me when they can shift large amounts of fashion items with a huge mark up to image conscious youngsters and women.

Steve Smith
01-15-2013, 03:41 PM
I went intio HMV at Christmas. It was heaving, uncomfortable, noisy, had massive queues, was noisy, had nothing I wanted and was noisy.

Was it noisy by any chance?


Once you get past the age of being interested in what clothes you wear (actually, I never was....)

Me too. Most of my clothes come from charity shops. I'm interested in them, just not interested in them being fashionable.


Steve.

pentaxuser
01-15-2013, 03:50 PM
[QUOTE=steven_e007;1447461]Yes, but I stopped visiting Jessops HMV lost my custom

Ah, so you are the cause of their problems. Don't open your door to any late night knocks. It will be Jeremy Paxman to grill you about why you caused the crisis :D

pentaxuser

paul_c5x4
01-15-2013, 06:22 PM
In Memoriam: Jessops (1935-2013), HMV (1921-2013).
Comet (1933-2012), WH Smiths (1792-20..)

Salem
01-16-2013, 04:28 AM
Just a thought inspired by HMV news: Maybe when the music industry stop paying pop artists top bucks, a new form of "real" music would emerge. A music for the music.

perkeleellinen
01-16-2013, 10:42 AM
Comet (1933-2012), WH Smiths (1792-20..)

Blockbuster (1985 - 2012)

benjiboy
01-16-2013, 11:01 AM
High street multiple stores now closing at the rate of 35 a day in Britain, I wonder what our towns and citys will be like in five years because they aren't coming back, this isn't a trend, it's a revolution.

paul_c5x4
01-16-2013, 11:43 AM
I wonder what our towns and citys will be like in five years.
Discount stores, charity shops, drop in(out) centres, Starbucks, and Work Programme hell holes - Not quite there yet in these parts...

perkeleellinen
01-16-2013, 12:51 PM
I imagine a renewed city centre devoid of chain stores: a civic centre of galleries, libraries and public spaces. Independent stores able to capitalise upon lowered rents alongside pop-up enterprises on short-term leases. Spaces for experiment, for ideas, for meeting, for living. A civic centre without cars where people can breathe, speak in low volume, run, play and just be.

We can dream can't we?

Steve Roberts
01-17-2013, 08:09 AM
>>Me too. Most of my clothes come from charity shops. I'm interested in them, just not interested in them being fashionable. (Steve Smith)

Yup - turned up for work in my 3.00 charity shop coat today!
I do draw the line at pants (in the English sense!) and socks, though!
Steve