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Thomas Bertilsson
05-15-2013, 10:51 AM
Sent you a PM here on APUG with my answers.

TheToadMen
05-15-2013, 11:11 AM
I'm doing my examination paper to get my bachelor's degree in graphic design on my university, and we were allowed to choose a subject within graphic design or photography. In other words I chose this subject myself, because I think there's a lack of research on this matter and also because people in general (including my teachers) seem to have the idea that people don't shoot analogically anymore. I'm actually surprised that there has been five–seven surveys like this in the past six months, since it's been super tricky to find similar research reports to refer to. :) Most are about digital photography.


Hi Heli,
I posted my answers before. Could you please post your end results & conclusions here for us to read? Should be interesting.
Thanks,
Bert from Holland

BTW: if you really want to read about the inner circle stuff, check this Word Journal of Post-Factory Photography (http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alternativephotography.com%2F books%2Fpost_factory_issue1.pdf&ei=EKaTUezFK4PFPYbWgLAK&usg=AFQjCNGrJsadEz5LwcDK5NuPsMs8jyMPsg&sig2=XsY94-pYuzNwOaCT9spzVA&bvm=bv.46471029,d.ZWU)about the historical photographic methods from before 1900 still being alive (very analogue indeed).

Rick A
05-15-2013, 11:16 AM
Hello everyone! I wasn't sure where to put this thread, so moderators may move it to another category!

I just wanted to check if someone around here wanted to answer some questions about analog photography for a project I'm doing in school? That would be cool. The answers will be treated anonymously.

Questions:
1. Age and gender
61 male

2. Do you shoot professionally (digital and/or analog)? What subjects do you shoot in that case?
Shot professionally in the past, just for personal enjoyment these days

3. When did you start shooting analogically, and when did you start photographing (if you started out with digital photography)?
was given my first camera in 1962

4. What equipment (camera) do you use? If you use multiple cameras, you can write down all of them and which one you use the most.
Olympus OMs -1, 2, and 4, Mamiya C-330 and C-220 with several lenses, Kodak Tourist 6x8 folder, B&J Watson 4x5 with assorted lenses, several 4x5 home made cameras

5. Do you develop your film yourself, and what technique do you use in that case?
Have been developing film since 1963, have had Jobos, slot processors, different drum systems, mainly stick to manual tank developing.

6. Why do you shoot analogically and what benefits do you think there is with analogue photography? Feel free to respond as fully as possible on this matter. For example, if you shoot analogically because of the appearance of the photos, please describe specifically what it is in the look that you like, etc. If there are many different reasons, please write down all. (This is the most important question)
I shoot film because I love printing photos

7. Are there any particular subjects that you think that analogue photography is particularly suitable for, respectively not suitable for?
I think the playing field is even

8. Will you continue to shoot analogically in the future?
Definitly, till the day I die(or there is no more film left to shoot)

If you also shoot digitally:
only to display items for sale online

9. Approximately how much of your photography do you estimate that you shoot analogically?
99%

10. What is it that makes you not photograph only analogically?
I'm a Ludite

11. Is there anything that could make you photograph analogically even more?
No

You can answer directly in the thread or post me a message, whatever works. Thanks in advance!
/Heli

Good luck with your research, and welcome to Apug.

Jim Noel
05-15-2013, 12:41 PM
Hello everyone! I wasn't sure where to put this thread, so moderators may move it to another category!

I just wanted to check if someone around here wanted to answer some questions about analog photography for a project I'm doing in school? That would be cool. The answers will be treated anonymously.

Questions:
1. Age and gender - 84 M
2. Do you shoot professionally (digital and/or analog)? What subjects do you shoot in that case? not any longer
3. When did you start shooting analogically, and when did you start photographing (if you started out with digital photography)? 1937
4. What equipment (camera) do you use? If you use multiple cameras, you can write down all of them and which one you use the most. 5x7 Deardorf, 8x10 Wehman, 7x17 . Hasselblad
5. Do you develop your film yourself, and what technique do you use in that case? Yes.tray, tank, or Jobo depending on the needs of the film
6. Why do you shoot analogically and what benefits do you think there is with analogue photography? Feel free to respond as fully as possible on this matter. For example, if you shoot analogically because of the appearance of the photos, please describe specifically what it is in the look that you like, etc. If there are many different reasons, please write down all. (This is the most important question)I have been at it over 70 years and see no reason to move to a very inferior process now.
7. Are there any particular subjects that you think that analogue photography is particularly suitable for, respectively not suitable for? I photograph whatever strikes my fancy on a particular day.
8. Will you continue to shoot analogically in the future? Absolutely

If you also shoot digitally:
9. Approximately how much of your photography do you estimate that you shoot analogically? None
10. What is it that makes you not photograph only analogically? Digital images lack the feeling of presence which is common to a good analog print.
11. Is there anything that could make you photograph analogically even more? More time,energy and strength.

You can answer directly in the thread or post me a message, whatever works. Thanks in advance!
/Heli

OK

hdeyong
05-16-2013, 06:56 AM
1. 59. M.
2. Some professionally, local architecture and scenes, automotive material for magazine.
3. Started analogue 1976, switched to digital 2005, switched mostly back to analogue 2011.
4. Olympus OM1 (the most), Pentax ME Super, Rollei 35S, several cheap Canon bodies, Olympus lenses, (used with adapters on the Canons.
5. Yes, standard stuff, HC-110.
6. Analogue looks more like photographs than digital, found that I was "shotgunning", taking a lot of pictures and hoping one would turn out, don't like spending too much time on front of computer. like to work with my hands.
7. No, a skilled photographer can get good results with analogue shooting anything.
8. Yes.
9. 80%.
10. "Travel memory" shots, need photos quickly for magazine deadline, reproductions.
11. No, the only things I shoot digitally are what I have to, or don't care that much about.

cowanw
05-18-2013, 10:04 AM
1. 63, male
2. no
3. 1963
4. 35mm contax;645 contax;6x6 Hasselblad; 4x5 cambo, zone vi; 8x10 deardorff
5. yes silver projection; Platinum/palladium
6. The hand work of it and I am comfortable with it and It does what I want.
7. suitable for anything; unsuitable, well some things are more difficult but the history of photography shows any thing can be done.
8.yes
9 less than 1%
10 dynamic range of European stained glass churches
11 time and money

TheToadMen
05-18-2013, 11:15 AM
I'm doing my examination paper to get my bachelor's degree in graphic design on my university, and we were allowed to choose a subject within graphic design or photography. In other words I chose this subject myself, because I think there's a lack of research on this matter and also because people in general (including my teachers) seem to have the idea that people don't shoot analogically anymore. I'm actually surprised that there has been five–seven surveys like this in the past six months, since it's been super tricky to find similar research reports to refer to. :) Most are about digital photography.


Hi,
check this small film for motivation: http://vimeo.com/65108090
As he says: "I use large format because it slows you down and it makes you look"

graubär
05-18-2013, 04:09 PM
1. male 55
2. no
3. 1979
4. Contax and Zeiss Ikon 35 mm, Zenza Bronica Medium Format; Ikon and Contax, Bronica
5. No. Used to , but do not have enough time
6. Less complicated, better results, because of more natural colors (shoot only slide film) and in b&w many choices of film=character.
Digital camera handbooks more than 50 pages, analog maybe 10! The advantage of digital is speed and high-sensitivity. I do not need that. I have to spend enough time at the computer anyhow. However for prints, I do scan the films, but hardly work on the scans, except dust removal and contrast adjustement as required for the paper used: glossy etc..I love to hold the images in my hands and be able to look at them.
7. Most is said under 6. In general nature and landscape photography is better on film. In winter I do not have to worry about batteries, because I have one mechanical camera.
8. I will! I follow the technical developments in the digital world, but feel less and less attracted to it. There is no system, which would meet my requirements. Maybe the very new Leica M bodies, but they are way to expensive for me.

Have fun with your project,
Peter

Slixtiesix
05-18-2013, 04:45 PM
1. 26, male
2. no, just amateur
3. started doing serious photography in 2002 (analog)
4. Rollei/Hasselblad+several Zeiss lenses. I mostly use the Hasselblad now but only because the Rollei need repair.
5. B/W I do my own, colour slides go to the lab
6. It´s fun! Great fun to shoot a slide film and to look at the slides when it comes back from the lab. Great fun to develop your own B/W film.
I prefer the colour fidelity and colour dept of film over that of digital. I also preferred classic B/W over digital B/W but the digital cameras have
become quite good in this now. To be honest I would also use a digital back if they were affordable, since these are quite good.
7. Traffic surveillance :-D No, to be serious I think it is still very convenient for everything you want to have on paper. Digital is easy to look at on the screen, but with analog you can get better matching results especially if you do your own work. It can be a pain to get accurate colour work from digital.
8. Definitely!

cliveh
05-18-2013, 05:01 PM
As we don’t know who Heli Lehtonen is, who joined on 05-14-2013, or if her picture is really her, or if anything you read on the net is true. I am surprised so many people have provided such detailed information.

mhofmeist
05-18-2013, 05:18 PM
1. 52
2. Occasionally, always on film only
3. Started photographing in 1968
4. SLR (Minolta, Leitz, ZeissIkon) and rangefinder (Konica) 35 mm
5. Only black and white, colour goes to pro lab
6. I strongly dislike digital "photography". For me it is a symbol of our superficial, instant-gratification society and "enhancing" images in photoshop :sick: a sign of cultural degradation. I even avoid autofocus. Photography is a craft and in some cases (not mine) an art, not a "computer skill".
7. Only thing digital can do better is a) cheaply and quickly producing a surge of images for instant consumption and b) some sorts of scientific imaging
8. If photographing on film became impossible (horrible thought), I would have to stop doing it. Making digital images is not photography for me.
9. 100%
10. not applicable
11. If I was less poor, could afford to buy films, paper and chemicals

Maris
05-18-2013, 06:16 PM
The original assumption in this survey is wrong. There is no such thing as "digital photography". It is digital picture-making. Photography is, always was, and always will be the making of pictures out of light sensitive materials. The use of the qualifier "analog" is redundant. Just say photography.

Questions:
1. Older male.
2. Shoot professionally? Not any more. Now I do photographs that no professional can afford to do and stay in business. Subjects? Anything with metaphoric value rather than merely illustrative.
3. When did you start shooting? I didn't start by shooting. Making photographs came in 1969. Camera-work started later.
4. What equipment? Mainly 8x10, sometimes 4x5, occasionally rollfilm in a SLR or TLR.
5. Developing methods? Traditional darkroom techniques. All photographs are made by me, start to finish, and in full, by my own hand.
6. Why do you shoot analogically? Photographs have an authority to depict subject matter based not on resemblance but on physical causation. Nothing else, not painting or drawing, not digital, has this authority.
7. Are there any particular subjects that you think that analogue photography is particularly suitable for? Yes, real things illuminated by light. Definitely no good for fictions, fudges, or fabrications. That's what digital is for.
8. Will you continue to shoot analogically in the future? Making pictures out of light sensitive substances is specifically what I do. The world is already glutted with digipix I'm not really interested in adding to or looking at.
11. Is there anything that could make you photograph analogically even more? Longer life!

markbarendt
05-18-2013, 08:44 PM
Heli,

There are still some very viable niches where film can do well, IMO.

There are a variety of very successful people who use film, here are a couple examples.

http://canlasphotography.blogspot.com

http://www.josevilla.com/

A few of the advantages of film is that it is forgiving, produces beautiful work, and getting professional backend work done is simple and no more expensive than hiring digital backend work done, just drop the film in the post or at the lab and it comes back ready to show the client.

The basic thing film needs to be viable in a business plan is just a little time, just enough time to run through the lab after the shoot and get back before the sales appointment.

Wedding photography is conducive to this type of two appointment strategy, portrait work can also work well, anything in the fine art range of work too. A great historical example of this business model is Henri Cartier-Bresson.

Mustafa Umut Sarac
05-18-2013, 09:20 PM
1. Male, 42 years old
2. I worked at all the levels of industry , 100000 prints with semiautomatic machine in 33 days , prepress , press industry.
3. My first camera was a Kodak Instamatic at 1978.
4. Only Leica
5. B&W Color since 1991.
6. I am finding with Leica a bridge between all classical painting , sculpture and me. If I could not be able to find that quality with photography , I would pass.
7. An well used German Summicron is a gate to Velasquez , Rembrandt and Da Vinci.
8. If they develop the same lens of 80 years old Leica and record 200 gigabyte files in one shot for 250 dollars camera , I would switch to digital.
9. 100 percent film
10. Above camera for 250 dollars
11. Alternative Processes

andrew.roos
06-24-2013, 12:48 PM
Hi Heli, wecome to APUG. I'm glad you posted your survey and think it's great that you considered analog photography for your project. Good luck with it!

1. Age and gender

47, male.

2. Do you shoot professionally (digital and/or analog)? What subjects do you shoot in that case?

No

3. When did you start shooting analogically, and when did you start photographing (if you started out with digital photography)?

1980-1985 (analog)
Then digital from 2008
Then analog again from 2012

4. What equipment (camera) do you use? If you use multiple cameras, you can write down all of them and which one you use the most.

Bronica ETRSi medium format (serious work)
Nikon D5000 (snapshots)

5. Do you develop your film yourself, and what technique do you use in that case?

B&W using Ilford ID-11 in a Paterson tank.

6. Why do you shoot analogically and what benefits do you think there is with analogue photography? Feel free to respond as fully as possible on this matter. For example, if you shoot analogically because of the appearance of the photos, please describe specifically what it is in the look that you like, etc. If there are many different reasons, please write down all.[/B] (This is the most important question)

Because I can get better B&W prints from film than from digital for same effort and cost. Better tonality and finer detail, without the colour cast you sometimes get when printing digital. And I can take full control over all aspects of the print myself, without having some bored kid or software algorithm crop or adjust the exposure or contrast to "improve it".

Because I work with computers all day and like to be able to take a break from them, and love using solidly built mechanical cameras.

Because analogue encourages me to take more time and make better photographs. It's just a state of mind.

Because I can buy "new" equipment from time to time without feeling too guilty about the cost.

7. Are there any particular subjects that you think that analogue photography is particularly suitable for, respectively not suitable for?

Analog is not great for high ISO and action. I mostly use analog for landscapes.

8. Will you continue to shoot analogically in the future?

Yes, although not necessarily exclusively.

If you also shoot digitally:
9. Approximately how much of your photography do you estimate that you shoot analogically?

About 10% of my photographs.
About 90% of my worthwhile photographs.

10. What is it that makes you not photograph only analogically?

Digital is more convenient for family pics that get emailed to relatives or when the end use is low resolution web display.

11. Is there anything that could make you photograph analogically even more?

More time and opportunity in beautiful places. Fewer distractions from work and family commitments.

gleaf
06-24-2013, 10:41 PM
PM sent.
66 nearly retired and Analog for the care it takes, digital for the file it makes.

JBrunner
06-24-2013, 10:58 PM
The OP with the "survey" hasn't logged into the site since three days after it was posted. I will leave it going in case others find the information interesting, but please note that this appears to be the Internet version of the Flying Dutchman.

Ken Nadvornick
06-25-2013, 12:18 AM
For whatever it's worth...

Heli Lehtonen Design (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&u=http://www.helilehtonen.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dheli%2Blehtonen%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D 715)
(Click on 'About')
(Google Swedish-to-English translation)

Ken

HeliLehtonen
09-08-2013, 10:34 AM
Thanks to everyone who have answered in the thread or sent messages, it means a lot. The project was put on ice for a few months because of work, but now I'm back on track and finishing the last pieces. It wasn't my intention to be a "Flying Dutchman" at all. Unfortunately the paper is written in Swedish, so I'm afraid it won't be of any interest for anyone here(?), but if you have any questions about the project you're very welcome to send me a message, and maybe I'll be able to answer it!

TheToadMen
09-08-2013, 10:57 AM
Thanks to everyone who have answered in the thread or sent messages, it means a lot. The project was put on ice for a few months because of work, but now I'm back on track and finishing the last pieces. It wasn't my intention to be a "Flying Dutchman" at all. Unfortunately the paper is written in Swedish, so I'm afraid it won't be of any interest for anyone here(?), but if you have any questions about the project you're very welcome to send me a message, and maybe I'll be able to answer it!

Maybe you could post a short summary in English here?