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Matus Kalisky
06-22-2013, 03:28 PM
I have thought (drooled) over an XPan many times over past few years, but I never got one mostly because of the price. But I was always attracted by the format and compact size of the camera.

So yesterday while browsing the *Bay I just came across one quite good looking XPan with the 45 lens for more than reasonable price - I took a few minutes to think & check (as far as possible) - and bought it. Now - 24 hours later the camera is on its way and I can not wait :)

Me and my wife are leaving for a vacation in a week - the XPan comes along. To make sure it gets proper work out I am leaving my Mamiya 6 at home (a tough deception to be honest, but I do take my 4x5" field setup).

I have also ordered 5 rolls of Acros, 2 rolls of Agfa Scala (my first try with the film) and 2 rolls of Ektar (I have some Velvia 50 too, but since I do not have the centre filter, I will rather wait with that) and a yellow filter too.

So - what else am I going to need? Any advice how to start? How is the in-camera metering? I have Gossen Digisix, but would actually prefer to let the camera to meter.

I am so excited :)

NDKodak
06-22-2013, 03:46 PM
I just bought a Xpan with 45mm a few months ago as well. Saw and held one for the first time at a out of town camera shop, then drove home and thought about the price of it too. After a week or so of feeling itchy about it, I though why the ^%&* not and now you know where my tax return went this year.
It's been a wonderful camera to shoot with. Its been taking a bit getting use to using a rangefinder instead of a SLR and I wish the lens were a bit faster, but boy looking at the first negatives out of the wash and it was all worth it.
I sill am trying to find a negative carrier to accommodate the the double wide negative, and I have found a couple and will order one when I figure out whats compatible with my enlargers. Enjoy!

Sirius Glass
06-22-2013, 05:46 PM
Enjoy!

mfohl
06-22-2013, 06:06 PM
Congrats! My only advice is to keep it level. If you're also toting along a 4x5, then you have a tripod. As for exposure, I rely on sunny 16.

whlogan
06-22-2013, 07:51 PM
You guys will love these things... I shoot a Fujis TX1 which is the same thing with a different name plate, but it is the same... love it... panos make you think different, don't they?
Logan

Matus Kalisky
06-23-2013, 01:54 AM
Thanks.

I will get a small level for the hot-shoe to get the horizon right.

Concerning the centre filter. Are there suitable 3rd party ones that fit or should I rather look for the original one?

I also made a search for an L-bracket and there were 2 in the past (Kirk and RRS) but these seem to be hard to find.

Neil Souch
06-23-2013, 02:45 AM
An excellent buy!

I have been using one since they came out and it is my favourite camera and one I shall never part with. If you are processing your own films you will have to get used to retrieving the film leaders from the cassettes as the camera always winds the film completely back. I took this up with Hasselblad and there is no way you can change this - which was a surprise. But if you get hold of an Ilford film leader retriever the job is easy and you soon get used to having to do this extra job. The metering I have found to be very good and it is useful that it is TTL so filter factors are automatically taken care of. Although a lot of the time I still use my hand held Sekonic and have the camera set to manual. Either way you will be very pleased with the results. I have found my Xpan to be the ideal camera for me for landscapes - especially when there is the need to go light.

Enjoy :-)

Neil.

Jesper
06-23-2013, 03:50 AM
Good choice. I bought one with 45 and 90mm for myself two weeks ago and I'm very pleased with it.

Matus Kalisky
06-23-2013, 07:45 AM
Thanks, good to hear that the meter can be trusted.

Yes - I develop my BW films. I use the dedicated opener to get film from the cartridge, so that should be OK.

I was already thinking of the 90 lens as I know I will have the use for it (I use the 150 for my Mamiya 6 rather often), but I have decided to wait and see how I get on with the XPan, before spending any more. Right now I am targeting the lens hood :)

I hope that latest on Tuesday I will have the camera in my hands. Optimally I would manage to get through 1 films before the vacation to be on the safe side.

Matus Kalisky
06-25-2013, 03:49 PM
OK, the camera is here. Man it looks great! It feels even better in hand - really solid. It feel more solid than my Mamiya 6 and way more solid that the Bessa R3A which I had in the past (well - that camera is in different price range). There is very little paint loss on the bottom edges, but I could not care less :)

The focusing is smooth, the aperture ring feels great too. The viewfinder is nice, the rangefinder patch contrasty - no problems to focus in not-too-well lit evening living room.

I have also received the most expensive little piece of plastic I have ever bought - the sunshade, but it fits perfectly and makes it nearly impossible to get some unwanted elements on the lens which is my priority.

The only thing that could be different is the position of the tripod mounting point - completely de-centerded witch will probably not allow to use my compact table-tripod.

Let's just hope that my film order (Across 100 and Ektar) will arrive in time, but there can be some film found in local drugstore, so that is not critical.

I feel really high :) (NO substances other than 1.5 hours of sweating in a gym, I am KO) - this camera is going to get used quite a bit over my coming vacation. I am still fighting myself to leave the Mamiya 6 at home (should I?) to concentrate more on the XPan.

Vincent Brady
07-01-2013, 02:08 PM
I must admit I would be a bit wary taking a camera that I was not that familiar with away on holidays leaving behind my normal camera. I have an XPan and I love it, but it did take me a while to change my sense of composition in order to take good shots with it. Vertical shots are quite difficult and not every landscape lends itself to that format. But once you get use to it you will find that your whole approach to composition will change in order to accomodate the XPan. I would advise checking out Flickr to see examples of XPan work. Good luck with your camera and enjoy your holidays.

Klainmeister
07-01-2013, 02:15 PM
This thread is so useless without some camera porn and images...come on folks!

Matus Kalisky
07-03-2013, 03:10 PM
Klainmeister - some 'porn' will come eventually ;)

I agree about a risk, but this is a family vacation in mountains, not a once-in-a-lifetime vacation, so if I get less than I expect it is OK. I have my GRDIII for some family shots along too and even my slimmed-down 4x5" setup (which I hope to use too) for those highly artistic tree shots :) But the Mamiya did complain a lot about being left behind (and I have a very respectful stash of film for it too)

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For now I have noticed a slight vertical misalignment (horizontal seems OK - at least in infinity) - is that something I could fix myself, or should I look for a repair service when I get back?

Iluvmycam
07-04-2013, 06:38 AM
Big congrats!!

I've been drooling over one as well. When you get it let us know how the 45 worked out. I have always wanted the 30. I was worried the 45 did not give enough coverage.

Iluvmycam
07-04-2013, 06:39 AM
I must admit I would be a bit wary taking a camera that I was not that familiar with away on holidays leaving behind my normal camera. I have an XPan and I love it, but it did take me a while to change my sense of composition in order to take good shots with it. Vertical shots are quite difficult and not every landscape lends itself to that format. But once you get use to it you will find that your whole approach to composition will change in order to accomodate the XPan. I would advise checking out Flickr to see examples of XPan work. Good luck with your camera and enjoy your holidays.


Why are vertical shots tough with it?

Matus Kalisky
07-04-2013, 08:14 AM
So far (20 or so exposures) I find the 45 works well. 30 would be a specialty lens for me. If the Xpan will be a keeper the 90 will be a must though.

I can imagine that vertical shots are tougher, because with 'ordinary' composition you need to tilt the camera upwards quite a bit if you do not want to photograph the tips of your shoes (I am exaggerating a bit here) and once you do that you may get a very strong inclination of vertical lines. In my eyes the vertical panoramic format tends to look "thinner' than horizontal for whatever reason ...

Iluvmycam
07-04-2013, 08:21 AM
Would the 90 be of any use if one is only interested in pan work? Or is the 90 just for shooting standard framing?

Matus Kalisky
07-04-2013, 08:36 AM
AFAIK the 90 support the pano format as well. Otherwise there would be little reason to buy one. I seem to be correct - Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=xpan%2090%2F4) has the right answer :)

Iluvmycam
07-04-2013, 09:22 AM
Don't know about the 90. It looks like one could get the same with a crop 35. Although the benefit would be a bigger neg on the Xpan. I am interested in wide pan shots only.

Vincent Brady
07-05-2013, 05:59 AM
Why are vertical shots tough with it?

It is often difficult to have something interesting in the foreground and there is a lot of foreground to fill. I have less than a handful of successful shots in the vertical format and I've being using the camera now for several years. I have a few examples of my better ones in my photos.