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ReedW
10-08-2013, 10:26 PM
I was walking through a flea market a couple weeks ago and found this camera with a tag that said "old Polaroid - $10.00". Even I knew that with wasn't an old Polaroid so I picked it up. It is an ICA Sirene 135 from 1920.

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For a 90 year old camera, cosmetically it is in very good shape, the bellows look real good as does the rear hood, but... The focusing glass is broken and the shutter is hosed. The shutter speed dial doesn't feel right and the blades are loose. There were also no plate/film holders. I don't see a big problem with the glass but the shutter and holders with probably make it a static display. The shutter/lens has "Extra Rapid Aplanat Helios" on it.

The other one is something like I never saw before. It is an 1897 Adlake with 12 holders, two with glass, all inside the camera. I don't have a photo but this
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is from this site http://www.vintagephoto.tv/adlake.shtml that shows and explains it much better than I can. I've only had it a couple days and haven't really been able to get into it yet.

Ian Grant
10-09-2013, 12:26 AM
Welcome to APUG.

The Ica Sirene is a bottom of the range camera as it has a 2 element Helios lens in what looks to be a self cocking shutter, plate holders are quite easy to find but see the sticky thread here about the types of fit. Film adapters were made but are slightly more difficult. It's a very simple two blade shutter so may well appear loose.

I've put new focus screens in all my cameras of this type but they often need quite thin glass (1.5mm) which is more prone to break.

The other camera lppks interesting.

Ian

Jeff Kubach
10-09-2013, 12:26 AM
Hello and a warm welcome to APUG. Just love you're old cameras!

Jeff

AgX
10-09-2013, 03:02 AM
"Ica Sirene"

A early camera with sound?

jnanian
10-09-2013, 09:10 AM
hey, welcome to apug reedw, great finds !

the big box looks like a lot of fun. i love using old box cameras
that took/take 4x5" plates. i hadn't ever seen a mechanical magazine camera like
that, only falling ones. yours looks like a lot of fun, and no worries about plate-breakage :)

john

paul_c5x4
10-09-2013, 01:08 PM
I've put new focus screens in all my cameras of this type but they often need quite thin glass (1.5mm) which is more prone to break.

Thin glass is also difficult to find - One good source is large microscope slides, for example: BRL large tissue slides (http://brainresearchlab.com/online-catalog/slides-and-cover-glass/slides-for-large-tissue-3-x-4-and-larger/)

Ian Grant
10-10-2013, 02:26 AM
Thin glass is also difficult to find - One good source is large microscope slides, for example: BRL large tissue slides (http://brainresearchlab.com/online-catalog/slides-and-cover-glass/slides-for-large-tissue-3-x-4-and-larger/)

I have a few sheets of 1.5mm (approx) in 10"x8" they came from a pile of picture frames that had belonged to my old next door neighbour, it's not legal in the EU to sell less than 2mm thick glass direct to the public.

My other source is old glass plates, I have a few boxes of unused plates (some sealed but mostly useless) and occasionally when I buy plate holders they come with plates still inside. In fact I took a number out of holders yesterday all fitted in the wrong way so they'll be stripped and cleaned.

Ian

TheToadMen
10-10-2013, 03:16 AM
Picture frames are a great & cheap source for glass plates for sure!!

Before coating, give it a good wash (5 minutes or so) with simple liquid detergent to free the glass from grease and durt. Will also clean your hands as well, preventing finger prints popping up all over :)

ReedW
10-11-2013, 01:33 AM
My wife and I were looking at three cameras. The Adlake, a Kodak Retina II and a Voigtlander Vito II. I was interested in the two 35mm, not sure about the plate camera. That is until my wife started tearing up. It turns out her grandfather was a pretty accomplished photographer and she was sure she remembered him using the Adlake. Well that settled that, I bought all three. Later, I told her that the Adlake was hers. Now, I have to find out if it will work. The things you do for love.

Dan Fromm
10-11-2013, 09:01 PM
"Ica Sirene"

A early camera with sound?

Not exactly, but it does lure mariners to their deaths.