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Claudia Moroni
10-21-2013, 07:29 AM
I think we're mixing up here personal taste and nude photography standards.
As you said, slip marks aren't really supposed to show up in staged nude photos, hence I pointed it out, so that maybe next time the photographer will avoid this common mistake (or maybe he'll tell us that it was intentional and explain why he did, who knows).
My choice of occasionally photographing people who are shaved and/or tattooed and/or pierced doesn't really defy any nude (or clothed) photography convention, so I believe your remark is just a matter of personal taste and I believe is a bit OT since nobody has posted pictures of shaved, tattoed and pierced people on this particular thread.
I agree that it might be a generational issue anyway :)

Rick A
10-21-2013, 08:26 AM
I find it interresting the OP hasn't chimed back in since posting the pix. This is what Fotch had to say on another thread the OP posted to promote his photos:
A commercial photographer selling prints should become a subscriber. Members can buy however, not suppose to sell. I know you did not mention selling but you are promoting your professional income making status in many ways just the same. JMHO

AgX
10-21-2013, 08:39 AM
I think we're mixing up here personal taste and nude photography standards.
As you said, slip marks aren't really supposed to show up in staged nude photos, hence I pointed it out, so that maybe next time the photographer will avoid this common mistake (or maybe he'll tell us that it was intentional and explain why he did, who knows).
My choice of occasionally photographing people who are shaved and/or tattooed and/or pierced doesn't really defy any nude (or clothed) photography convention, so I believe your remark is just a matter of personal taste and I believe is a bit OT since nobody has posted pictures of shaved, tattoed and pierced people on this particular thread.
I agree that it might be a generational issue anyway :)

But THAT was just the reason for me to respond.

Yes, it is a matter of my "taste". But the important thing to me is that there is practically no more photography of natural nudes (aside from porn photography).

So I welcome any photography of that kind. (And thus can live with slip-marks...)

StoneNYC
10-22-2013, 12:03 AM
I find the above most disturbing in general and thus on any photo too.

Slip marks are natural on unstaged nude-photos. I admit they should not show up in staged nude photos. But as indicated there is much worse. To me...

Claudia, this might be generation issue though.

It certainly is, honestly, I've never even seen a girl under 30 who doesn't have any tattoos somewhere on their body, they all do, I don't CHOOSE tattooed girls, but they are the only ones available.

I also don't choose to have them shaved, I hate shaved girls, but mostly that's all that are available...

The times, they are a-changin'....


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Mustafa Umut Sarac
10-24-2013, 03:56 PM
Stone,

You are talking about these girls like shaved dogs , Why you feel so strange to girls who tries to support themselves for showing themselves to a stranger nude ? I am sorry but I did not like this attitude , if you feel them as dogs , why you are photographing them ? If a woman is my lover and I worship her beauty , I take photographs and may be dont share with others. I had a woman friend whose husband takes her images to show other men at the factory , that does not work for me.

StoneNYC
10-24-2013, 04:51 PM
Stone,

You are talking about these girls like shaved dogs , Why you feel so strange to girls who tries to support themselves for showing themselves to a stranger nude ? I am sorry but I did not like this attitude , if you feel them as dogs , why you are photographing them ? If a woman is my lover and I worship her beauty , I take photographs and may be dont share with others. I had a woman friend whose husband takes her images to show other men at the factory , that does not work for me.

I think there is a language barrier here.

I'm simply saying I shoot whomever is available and interested, and don't make them do anything for the shoot, I take them as they come.

That's what I'm saying.

I then added my personal preference which is un-shaven.

Most of the girls I shoot are not my lovers but models.

Does that clear things up?


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marciofs
11-04-2013, 06:26 AM
Hey,
I had to go away for some days but I am back... I just read all the responses.

For those who notice the tension, this is the photographs theme. The pain of love, anxiety of incertitude and loneness.

About the lighting split on the background, it is intentional. The background drape is folded to simulate a stage curtain. The idea is not to look at the models just as women posing but to introduce them as a piece of sculpture.

About the skin marks... Yes, I don't like it aether. I ask models to come with clothes that don't leave deep marks but some times they don't listen. And we wait for the marks desapear but it take too long time some times. It is a shame...

About the rules... I didn't know. :D

Thanks for the comments and maybe some of you guys could share what you have done in the nude field (But don't post your nude self portrait hehehe).

This is funny because I never had receive comments showing the tension and background wasn't clear as intentional.

TheFlyingCamera
11-04-2013, 06:54 AM
Thanks for the comments and maybe some of you guys could share what you have done in the nude field (But don't post your nude self portrait hehehe).



Not that I'm going to post any nude self-portraits, but what pray tell is wrong with that idea?

Some of my nude work:

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/hangedman.jpg

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/pstokesback.jpg

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/felipeboxing3.jpg

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/samboston1.jpg

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/luis.jpg

StoneNYC
11-04-2013, 07:12 AM
Not that I'm going to post any nude self-portraits, but what pray tell is wrong with that idea?

Some of my nude work:

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/hangedman.jpg

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/pstokesback.jpg

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/felipeboxing3.jpg

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/samboston1.jpg

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/7/8/5/luis.jpg

I like the second and last one best.

Also I have to wonder if the OP assumes all the photographers are male? There are a few beautiful women photographers here that he might regret not seeing in a nude self portrait haha

Truthfully, the only true new that I've ever taken, was actually when I was teaching someone else about photography, and while we were there and we were shooting her nude, The light was just perfect and I just saw this chair without a seat and got an idea, I decided what the heck! However it's not a film image visual image because I only had the opportunity to use her camera, Nikon *shudder* cheap non-pro camera, it's fine in this size, but larger and you can see how bad the CA and other aspects of the lens / pixels are.

But since we are breaking the rules on this thread anyway... And since the OP requested not to post them, it's like saying "don't push the red button" haha...without further ado...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/04/atetahyn.jpg

Terry Christian
11-04-2013, 07:12 AM
Great, Scott. I find the rear torso one rather Mapplethorpian; and I like your likening of the young man in the last one to the curtain behind him.

marciofs
11-04-2013, 08:43 AM
The first male nude photos I have tried to shoot was with my brother as model and I found it difficult to photograph male nude. With women it is easier find a good body composition which match the women body language and personality. While with man I found all my shots weird, because it was a male nude with female body language, and it wasn't intentionally but I just was trying to find a good body composition and probably my experience with female models influenced on it.

My brother when looked at it he said "you made me look/pose like gay".

Nothing against homosexuality but it is clear to me that photograph male and female are two completely different things with different body composition and visual language.

TheFlyingCamera
11-04-2013, 11:01 AM
The first male nude photos I have tried to shoot was with my brother as model and I found it difficult to photograph male nude. With women it is easier find a good body composition which match the women body language and personality. While with man I found all my shots weird, because it was a male nude with female body language, and it wasn't intentionally but I just was trying to find a good body composition and probably my experience with female models influenced on it.

My brother when looked at it he said "you made me look/pose like gay".

Nothing against homosexuality but it is clear to me that photograph male and female are two completely different things with different body composition and visual language.

Out of curiosity, how do my male nudes strike you, given your comments regarding your experience photographing your brother? Are they, in your perception, masculine or feminine, or somewhere in between?

Katie
11-04-2013, 11:39 AM
A Weiner in the shot is pretty masculine...

I take lots of self portraits...

I don't usually take full nudes. I like imagination...





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TheFlyingCamera
11-04-2013, 01:49 PM
I think we can all be mature adults in this conversation and call a penis a penis. I realize not everyone is comfortable with the body, nudity and/or sexuality. To me, the "leaves something to the imagination" comment is indicative of continuing association of nudity with pornography, eroticism and/or sexuality, when they don't have a mutually inclusive correlation.

Katie
11-04-2013, 02:26 PM
Fair enough. I'm too tired to debate the nudity issue; only to say its just not my thing. As for the "penis/Weiner" comment... I blame that on too much time spent with my 5 year old. ;)



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StoneNYC
11-04-2013, 03:18 PM
Fair enough. I'm too tired to debate the nudity issue; only to say its just not my thing. As for the "penis/Weiner" comment... I blame that on too much time spent with my 5 year old. ;)



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Haha geeze guys it's a pee-pee ;)

marciofs
11-05-2013, 10:01 AM
Out of curiosity, how do my male nudes strike you, given your comments regarding your experience photographing your brother? Are they, in your perception, masculine or feminine, or somewhere in between?

I think the seccond one is feminine and the last one between.