I bought some transparency film from photowarehouse to make digital negs with but I'm getting bands when I print on it. Pictorico OHP prints fine with the same settings. So what gives?

Thanks in advance for the help :)

I bought some transparency film from photowarehouse to make digital negs with but I'm getting bands when I print on it. Pictorico OHP prints fine with the same settings. So what gives?

Thanks in advance for the help :)

Are the bands parallel with the run of the print head, or with the rollers? If it is with the rollers it is because they are picking up some of the ink from the OHP material. Crystal Clear does not dry nearly so fast as Pictorico. And don't ever, ever put it in backward. Always check to make sure that you are using the coated side by licking your fingers and seeing which side the finger sticks to. If you happen to put a sheet through on the wrong side with Crystal Clear you are in for a all afternoon clean up of the printer.

Some people using Epson 2200 printers found that they got bands from the rollers and with that printer there is a way to remove the rollers, which alleviates the problem. I use the Photo Warehouse Crystal Clear film with the Epson 2200 and have no problems at all.

Sandy

I'll bet it's the rollers! I remember your warning about printing on the wrong side so I labeled the package, *lick and stick* in big, red letters.

So does removing the rollers cause problems with other papers?

I'll bet it's the rollers! I remember your warning about printing on the wrong side so I labeled the package, *lick and stick* in big, red letters.

So does removing the rollers cause problems with other papers?

I can not say for certain because the Crystal Clear goes through my Epson 2200 fine with the rollers in place. But I do clean them on a fairly regular basis so that may be the explanation for my success. However, based on reports by others on the alt-photo-process list removing the rollers does not cause problems,

Don Bryant is something of an expert on this issue so maybe he will weigh in.

Sandy

Some people using Epson 2200 printers found that they got bands from the rollers and with that printer there is a way to remove the rollers, which alleviates the problem. I use the Photo Warehouse Crystal Clear film with the Epson 2200 and have no problems at all.

Sandy

Removing the rollers from the 2200 is not at all required. There are two sets of rollers that have to ne dealt with when using Ultrafine Clear Film.

The first set of rollers, most often referred to as "pizza wheels" will leave their tracks seen as lines of fine dots running perpendicular to the print head movement. These are quite easy to deal with. You can do this by opening the top lid of the printer and look down and the way to your left as you face the printer. You will sight a white nylon roller in the middle left area. Gently reach down and lift the pizza wheel bar up and at the same time press the nylon roller down. It will then click into place lifting the entire bar assembly up. It will remain in that position and allow the print head to travel back and forth unencimbered.

The second set of wheels that need to be lifted are the exit rollers that have black rubber banding girdeling the white plastic hub. The easiest way to describe the method for lifting those can be found at this URL:

http://www.inksupply.com/2200wh.cfm

Good luck,

Don Bryant

So are you saying I need to buy those roller holders? Sorry - I'm confused!

So are you saying I need to buy those roller holders? Sorry - I'm confused!

All they are are the ends of tiny wire ties inserted in the front of the wheels to raise them. You could buy them if yous wish or purchase them locally if you don't have them. Look closely at the exit rollers and at the illustration on the web page I pointed you to and I think you will understand the procedure.

Don Bryant

Oh, I see now! Jeez, if I'd only read the description more thoroughly ;) thanks!

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Good luck,

Don Bryant

I figured out how to lift the pizza wheels but lifting the exit rollers has me stumped. What is the CD bar? I can not find anything that lifts all of the wheels at once.

Sandy

Hi Sandy

I don't think you can lift all the rollers at once; They have to be lifted individually and those tie-wrap heads have to be inserted to keep them up. At least that's what I've discovered so far.

And the cd bar is a rather slim bar about 5 inches long & attached to the assembly that holds the rollers. If you look into your printer from the front, it's on the left.

Hi Sandy

I don't think you can lift all the rollers at once; They have to be lifted individually and those tie-wrap heads have to be inserted to keep them up. At least that's what I've discovered so far.

And the cd bar is a rather slim bar about 5 inches long & attached to the assembly that holds the rollers. If you look into your printer from the front, it's on the left.

Yes, that is the way it looks to me as well, but the web site suggests that you can solve the problem by placing the tie-wraps at the two ends of the CD bar.

Sandy

Oh yeah, I can see how one might think that was the case - too bad it's not so simple, huh? But the way I understand it is that the tie wraps have to be inserted on all the rollers including the ones under the cd bar which is a touch more squirly because you have to put the plastic things between the cd bar and the bar that is holding everything together.

Oh yeah, I can see how one might think that was the case - too bad it's not so simple, huh? But the way I understand it is that the tie wraps have to be inserted on all the rollers including the ones under the cd bar which is a touch more squirly because you have to put the plastic things between the cd bar and the bar that is holding everything together.
My recommendation is to leave the rollers of the right and left most side down. It is unlikely that you will have ink on the substrate on those two areas. Leaving those down will aid in ejecting the media.

The pizza wheel lift is a seperate issue and does not require the use of wire ties.

Don Bryant

Hi Sandy

I don't think you can lift all the rollers at once; They have to be lifted individually and those tie-wrap heads have to be inserted to keep them up. At least that's what I've discovered so far.

And the cd bar is a rather slim bar about 5 inches long & attached to the assembly that holds the rollers. If you look into your printer from the front, it's on the left.

If you open the lid to the printer and while facing the printer you will see a small white roller attached to the cd bar on your left. The " CD bar" as I'm calling it has the pizza wheels inserted into it. Reach down and gently lift the CD bar and at the same time press the white roller down. It will remain in place and hold the pizza wheels up, not contacting the transparency/substrate.

Don Bryant

If you open the lid to the printer and while facing the printer you will see a small white roller attached to the cd bar on your left. The " CD bar" as I'm calling it has the pizza wheels inserted into it. Reach down and gently lift the CD bar and at the same time press the white roller down. It will remain in place and hold the pizza wheels up, not contacting the transparency/substrate.

Don Bryant

A silly question - I've locked the pizza wheel bar 'up' but how does one get it down again?

A silly question - I've locked the pizza wheel bar 'up' but how does one get it down again?
Good question. I don't have an answer for that.

Don Bryant

I'm curious why you would need to get the pizza wheel bar back down again. Won't it also cause marks on normal photo prints, too, and not just the OHP?

I'm curious why you would need to get the pizza wheel bar back down again. Won't it also cause marks on normal photo prints, too, and not just the OHP?
Jeremy,

The pizza wheels affect some types of substrates severly such as Photowarehouse Ultrafine Clearprint film which I'm sure you know. Some inkjet papers are also affected by the pizza wheels, but I've forgotten which ones. Epson papers and Epson compatible papers don't have problems with the pizza wheels marks or tracking.


Don Bryant

Jeremy,

The pizza wheels affect some types of substrates severly such as Photowarehouse Ultrafine Clearprint film which I'm sure you know. Some inkjet papers are also affected by the pizza wheels, but I've forgotten which ones. Epson papers and Epson compatible papers don't have problems with the pizza wheels marks or tracking.


Don Bryant

I guess the big question then is you would want to put them back down if they only cause trouble. Obviously you don't really need them or you couldn't print on the Photowarehouse OHP with good results.