View Full Version : Irving Penn, Platinum Prints


doughowk
06-17-2005, 07:11 AM
A somewhat critical review (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/17/arts/design/17smit.html?pagewanted=1) of Penn's show at Washington National Gallery. The reviewer preferred Penn's silver gelatin prints to his later use of pt/pl.

Joe Lipka
06-17-2005, 07:28 AM
I don't know if it's critical or not. I do believe the reviewer has set a new USA record for obscure references with turgid, obscure artistic references. Or maybe she has not seen a platinum print before...

juan
06-17-2005, 07:41 AM
Man, talk about overwritten. She must be paid by the word.

Lee Shively
06-17-2005, 08:23 AM
Boy, do I feel informed and inferior! :rolleyes:

Ed Sukach
06-17-2005, 01:52 PM
This:

"... building the spontaneous aesthetic of pioneers like Martin Munkacsi into a kind of distilled baroque tour de force that often conveyed a sense of movement, however starkly arrested."

... HAS to set some sort of new record.

My reaction - snappy rejoinder - to this: Grade IV (highest) blank look, while commenting, "Huh? Say whut?"

Hmm ... "A distilled baroque tour de force"...? Possibly some sort of Napoleon-Brandy-type liqueur???

Jorge
06-17-2005, 02:11 PM
I would like to know what the $·%&/%$ is a Saarinen Tulip chair?

PaulH
06-17-2005, 02:21 PM
Take look here for the Saarinen Tulip Chair

http://www.surrounding.com/Products/Modern_Classics/Saarinen_Tulip_Chair.asp

lee
06-17-2005, 03:20 PM
I, for one, saw an Irvin Penn platinum print last Sat at the Amon Carter Museum and thought the portrait was as nice an image as could be made. It was a 16x20 and she dont know beans.

lee\c

MenacingTourist
06-20-2005, 01:16 PM
I just bought this book two days ago. Really wish I could have seen the prints in person. Anyway, I enjoyed it and am pleased to have it in the "library".

mark
06-20-2005, 01:45 PM
So it took her two pages to write nothing? I am not familiar with Penn's Pt/Pd work nor this ehibit but this writer makes no point whatsoever about it.. She has snippets of many points but never follows them through. I read it twice pulled out the dictionary a couple of times and each time asked myself what her point was. I still don't get the connection between the images and the Tulip chair that looks nothing like a Tulip.

Ole
06-20-2005, 03:14 PM
It seems the reviwer is an accomplished name-dropper - with absolutely no clue who those people were and what they did.

David A. Goldfarb
06-20-2005, 03:33 PM
I recognize most of the names, and I read and write academic criticism for a living, and I enjoy some of it, but that was just sophomoric.

"In the late 1940's and 50's, with Richard Avedon playing Pollock to his de Kooning - or perhaps the other way around [...]"--Please.

John Koehrer
06-21-2005, 01:01 PM
She?.....Robert A. Smith
Blah, blah etc. etc.

Gerald Koch
06-21-2005, 03:13 PM
Roberta Smith is evidently competing for the Bulwer-Lytton prize.

Jorge
06-21-2005, 04:57 PM
What I found funny is that the chair certainly has a fancy name, I was expecting a beautifully wooden carved or built chair, and then I chacked the link provided and found out it was a plastic chair that many here in Mexico have as lawn furniture......go figure!

David A. Goldfarb
06-21-2005, 08:23 PM
Yes, the Saarinen chair was mass produced and imitated in many forms, and I always think of them as the 1970s chairs my grandfather had in his office, but they really did define an era.

gandolfi
06-21-2005, 08:45 PM
as you might know Penn was married to Lisa Fonsagrives, and she was from Sweden..
'as a result he gave the Swedish state about 150 images some years ago..

many (about 100) was exhibited here in Denmark, and I had the good fortune to see them..
I have never seen such beautiful work (Sally Mann excluded)- especially his large Platinum prints..

I think I could find a small space for one of theese Platinum prints here in my home...(If I looked hard enough)

noseoil
06-22-2005, 08:52 AM
Isn't a critic one who is gifted with verbal diarrhea, mental masturbation, vaccinated with a phonograph needle and fluent in the skills of communication? tim


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