Christopher Nisperos
12-27-2005, 06:38 PM
post retracted for lack of response
| View Full Version : Print Washers from Deville "great", or old HT-2 "bad"? Christopher Nisperos 12-27-2005, 06:38 PM post retracted for lack of response dancqu 12-28-2005, 07:11 PM I've read that the HT-2 test, a silver for sulfur test, has a two month life span. My HT-2 came from P. Formulary and they may have been the source of information. Silver nitrate and acetic acid make up the HT-2 test. I don't know why it should go bad; if it does. I've asked the same question of this group and gotten no response. Apparently the reactions involved are more complex then would first seem to be the case. One thing I think for certain; the sulfide of silver is produced if there be any sulfur present. From reading of the test, the acid is present to free sulfur from any remaining thiosulfate. But nitrate is a very strong oxidizer and so why sulfur rather than a sulfate being freed? For that matter why a sulfide of silver and not a sulfate. At any rate I'm not going to buy any more HT-2 or compound it until I find out why it should go bad. I think the HT-1a test, properly done, will do just as well. Dan hortense 12-28-2005, 09:03 PM post retracted for lack of response I didn't realize that there was a deadline for an answer? If so, it would be interesting to note. Christopher Nisperos 12-28-2005, 09:21 PM I've read that the HT-2 test, a silver for sulfur test, has a two month life span. My HT-2 came from P. Formulary and they may have been the source of information. Silver nitrate and acetic acid make up the HT-2 test. I don't know why it should go bad; if it does. I've asked the same question of this group and gotten no response. Apparently the reactions involved are more complex then would first seem to be the case. One thing I think for certain; the sulfide of silver is produced if there be any sulfur present. From reading of the test, the acid is present to free sulfur from any remaining thiosulfate. But nitrate is a very strong oxidizer and so why sulfur rather than a sulfate being freed? For that matter why a sulfide of silver and not a sulfate. At any rate I'm not going to buy any more HT-2 or compound it until I find out why it should go bad. I think the HT-1a test, properly done, will do just as well. Dan Dan, Kind thanks for this answer. You're right . . it seems strange that this solution should keep so poorly. I'm no chemist, so your clear explanation is helpful. To further prove how much I'm not a chemist, here's another —perhaps, näive question —which your response brings to mind: you say that nitrate is a strong oxidier. Does that mean it can, in itself, become easily oxided? Just wondering. Christopher Nisperos 12-28-2005, 09:30 PM I didn't realize that there was a deadline for an answer? If so, it would be interesting to note. lol... Hortense, not at all. To be honest, I had become a little embarassed by the question I posted. I simply thought that one reason for receiving no responses might have been that the question was considered a little dumb, that's all. There. Now you have my raw ego before you, nerves, veins and all.. Keep the stop bath away! Happy holidays! dancqu 12-29-2005, 05:56 AM Dan, you say that nitrate is a strong oxidizer. Does that mean it can, in itself, become easily oxided? Just wondering. Just the opposite. Nitrates supply oxygen. Nitrates will oxidize many substances. As a youngster I used saltpeter, sodium nitrate, to make rocket powder. Dan Christopher Nisperos 12-29-2005, 06:12 AM Just the opposite. Nitrates supply oxygen. Nitrates will oxidize many substances. As a youngster I used saltpeter, sodium nitrate, to make rocket powder. Dan Saltpeter? Isn't that the stuff which is supposed to reduce the effect of your libido? Pretty multi-purpose then: on one hand it can suppress a "rocket", on the other hand, it makes one take-off! (sorry for the end-of-year humor in questionable taste, and thanks for another good clarification!) |