View Full Version : Anyone here doing Gum Bichromate?


david b
01-03-2006, 05:16 AM
I think the process is called gum bichromate.

Anyone on apug doing it? This process I mean? :D

BrianShaw
01-03-2006, 05:44 AM
yes.

donbga
01-03-2006, 06:21 AM
Yes.

Don Bryant

david b
01-03-2006, 06:28 AM
Got examples?

donbga
01-03-2006, 07:15 AM
Got examples?

What are you looking to find out David?

If you want examples visit Kerik Kouklis's site: http://www.kerik.com/ or Clay Harmon's web site: http://clayharmon.net/
or Keith Gerlings website: http://www.gumphoto.com/

That should give you a good sampling.

Don

donbga
01-03-2006, 07:20 AM
What are you looking to find out David?

If you want examples visit Kerik Kouklis's site: http://www.kerik.com/ or Clay Harmon's web site: http://clayharmon.net/
or Keith Gerlings website: http://www.gumphoto.com/

That should give you a good sampling.

Don

Oh yeah try these two links, Ernestine Ruben http://www.ernestineruben.com/
and Keith Taylor: http://www.keithtaylorphoto.com/

Don

smieglitz
01-03-2006, 07:33 AM
Got examples?

A few attachments below and some links to nude images I've done in gum:

4-color nude in woods gumby (http://my.net-link.net/~jsmigiel/images/CMYK_final.jpg)
nude in woods (http://my.net-link.net/~jsmigiel/images/gum_01.jpg)
Anima (http://my.net-link.net/~jsmigiel/images/gum_02.jpg)

Joe

Shinnya
01-03-2006, 09:26 AM
Not yet, but about to... Just mixed gum solution, and it is sitting in my fridge...

tsuyoshi

cjarvis
01-03-2006, 02:53 PM
In your fridge?

I have a couple tri-color gums in the gallery.

Lukas Werth
01-03-2006, 04:40 PM
I sometimes print with gum, but my favorite process is casein bichromate - the same as gum, but using casein.
Here are examples of my work:
http://www.photographie.de/magazin/werth.cfm

Shinnya
01-03-2006, 05:27 PM
Joe,

I really like one of the images in the middle. I am trying to make exposures like that for one of my projects. How was it done? Were you just printing darker or you controlled the exposure while taking pictures? Sorry for changing the topic by the way...

cjarvis,

Yes, my gum solution is still in fridge. Well, I was told to do so, at least while I am mixing it. I am about to mix some dichromate solutions and put gum over Pd prints once I figure out a problem in Pd printing (which is described in another thread)...

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi

smieglitz
01-03-2006, 09:46 PM
Joe,

I really like one of the images in the middle. I am trying to make exposures like that for one of my projects. How was it done? Were you just printing darker or you controlled the exposure while taking pictures?


Tsuyoshi,

It is a bit of both. The negative was a Polaroid p/n film which was exposed for the Polaroid print so the negative was slightly underexposed. I deliberately printed it dark as well. Furthermore, it is a zone plate image which has diffused and lowered the contrast of the image.

This BTW is the most difficult scan I've ever done because the dark areas are subtly separated. I had to make it a .gif file instead of a .jpg in order to get it close to the actual appearence of the print. If viewed on a Windows machine I suspect the result looks much more contrasty and darker than the actual print.

Thanks.

Joe

Poptart
01-03-2006, 10:03 PM
Hi. I've been doing gum for a couple of years.
Yes, it should be kept refrigerated--unless you're using that tar-like substance that's sold pre-mixed as printer's gum, which is loaded with preservatives. Gum acacia is an organic substance and spoils more quickly in heat. I add a tiny dose of preservative to mine when I mix it.
So tell us more about your ambitions and the materials you're using.

donbga
01-03-2006, 10:27 PM
Yes, my gum solution is still in fridge. Well, I was told to do so, at least while I am mixing it. I am about to mix some dichromate solutions and put gum over Pd prints once I figure out a problem in Pd printing (which is described in another thread)...

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi
FWIW,

I never put my gum in the fridge. If you are mixing it yourself you can add about 5ml of 100% thymol per liter of your gum mix (what ever your gum mix ratio is; 1 to 2, or 1 to 3, etc.).

I just keep mine in a sealed container in my darkroom. It pours out with a slight tint but smells like a fresh band aid and works great! :)

Don Bryant

Kate Mocak
01-10-2006, 09:21 AM
I do gum as well (http://kate.photopoints.com)

An excellent description of the process is in the Issue #1 of The World Journal of Post-Factory Photography. You can download the issue from www.alternativephotography.com (run the search through the site to locate the file. It's quite big and takes a while to download.)

Kate

Shinnya
01-13-2006, 07:53 AM
I am printing and finally feel like I have something to show. This is Gum over Pd from a 7x17 negative...

www.projectbasho.org/~tito/gumover/wlh_04.jpg

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi

donbga
01-13-2006, 08:31 PM
I am printing and finally feel like I have something to show. This is Gum over Pd from a 7x17 negative...

www.projectbasho.org/~tito/gumover/wlh_04.jpg

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi
Can you tell us a little about your technique?

Don Bryant

Shinnya
01-14-2006, 12:27 AM
Don,

Sure, I would be happy to. Let me know what you would like to know.

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi



Can you tell us a little about your technique?

Don Bryant

donbga
01-14-2006, 10:09 AM
Don,

Sure, I would be happy to. Let me know what you would like to know.

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi
Just a general run down of your work flow. How you coat. What kind of pigments you use. Gum ratios, etc., etc.

Don


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