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dxphoto
03-17-2006, 12:22 PM
Hi, I have a few questions on rebranded films.
I took some shots with adox chm 125 from purchased from JandC a few months ago. Souped with D76 1+1. great film. And I am assuming it is FP4+. Am I correct? I prewetted it from like 1 minute or so and got water out like ink. Didn't notice FP4+ (well I didn't prewet FP4) had the same issue. What is it?
I also have Adox CHM 400. Not sure what it is also? Recently I tried arista.edu (made in hungary) 400 and rated at 320 and developed as 400 in D76(1+1), I found it is slower than that speed. Now I have some Adox CHM 400 and I am not sure what it is (HP5+?). Anyone used them, what should i rate them and how do I develop them (I have DD-X, D76 and microdol-X).
I have tried digital truth dot com but didn't find much info.

Thank you very much.

-D

colrehogan
03-17-2006, 12:28 PM
That's just the anti-halation layer. No problem there. I get the same thing when I do a 1 minute prewash with FP4+. Sorry, can't help with the rest of them though.

clogz
03-17-2006, 12:33 PM
There is a 99% chance that the Adox CHM films are made by Ilford. Develop them as such.

Hans

Brac
03-18-2006, 11:39 AM
The Adox branded CHM films are Ilford emulsions which have been finished by Efke in Croatia. That's why the 120 Adox films come in plastic containers which the Ilford originals certainly don't.

Tom Hoskinson
03-18-2006, 11:53 AM
The Adox CHM films are made by Efke in Croatia. Efke is now Adox.

It has been reported that some of the Ilford films were also manufactured by Adox/Efke

pmu
03-18-2006, 12:48 PM
The Adox CHM films are made by Efke in Croatia. Efke is now Adox.

It has been reported that some of the Ilford films were also manufactured by Adox/Efke

I believe that it is just the opposite - CHM 125 and CHM 400 films are manufactured by ilford in england (and other Adox films are made in Croatia?).

"ADOX CHM Professional Films - The CHM series films orginate in England and are packaged for ADOX."

http://www.retrophotographic.com/adoxfilms.htm

Well, anyway, I shoot mainly with Adox CHM 400. Excellent film!

digiconvert
03-19-2006, 07:02 AM
TRhe 125 clone is also a good alternative to FP4+. I am waiting to try the (Efke)25 when I pluck up the courage to try it with Ilfosol .

Ian Grant
03-19-2006, 08:11 AM
The Adox brand name now belongs to Fotoimpex, Berlin, they sell both EFKE and Ilford manufactured film under this name, also using the brand for Forte papers as well.

http://www.fotoimpex.de/Home/films/films.html
http://www.fotoimpex.de/Home/engl_photopapers/e-Polywarm/e-polywarm.html

Their catalogue indicates that the CHM films have similar characteristics to Ilford equivalents, and is respooled film made in England.

Ian

Brac
03-21-2006, 11:29 AM
I believe that it is just the opposite - CHM 125 and CHM 400 films are manufactured by ilford in england (and other Adox films are made in Croatia?).

"ADOX CHM Professional Films - The CHM series films orginate in England and are packaged for ADOX."

http://www.retrophotographic.com/adoxfilms.htm

Well, anyway, I shoot mainly with Adox CHM 400. Excellent film!

You're absolutely right - the CHM are Ilford emulsions that are finished by Efke (Adox) in Croatia. They certainly don't make any films for Ilford!

davekarp
03-21-2006, 02:52 PM
Is this relationship between Ilford and Efke ongoing? I had heard that all similar deals were terminated when Ilford was in receivership, so that now to get FP4+ you have to find in or out of date old stock or buy the Ilford version. Anyone know if this is true (as opposed to conjecture).

Jim Noel
03-22-2006, 11:42 AM
I just received a fresh supply of FP4+ in 5x7 and 8x10. Ifind no difference in this film and that from last year.

BBMOR
03-22-2006, 02:17 PM
hello

the adox 400 chm is HP5+ i am sure ,i rate at 200 and devellop in perceptol 1+4 for 16min at 24 C first 30 ' agitation and after each 2 min twice
real nice negatives easy to print and detail in the highlights and the shadows Just as with the HP 5+ but 45 % cheaper

greetings from Belgium (Near Brussels)

jm

bobfowler
03-22-2006, 02:50 PM
A while back, I bought a couple of bricks of 35mm ORWO 125 from J&C. It was rebranded FP4+ and at a great price! They haven't had it in a while...