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Nige
09-06-2006, 04:56 AM
The schedule was

Round 8
August : Sign on
September : Print and Post
October : R&R

But... we had many cards un-delivered (still got a few to creep in) and I decided to leave it another month before starting Rnd 8. That month and a bit more has passed with a few enquiries about Rnd 8 coming in, so it's time to do something!

In a previous discussion, we contemplated limiting the number of cards that needed to be sent in some way. A common response was 'I'd like to be in all groups' which won't actually work with the number of participants we have as I think a good proportion will want to do that. I figure we can go 4 ways...

1. Stop the Postcard Exchange
2. Stick with "In for one, in for All" (Current)
3. Break into 'managable' sized groups (no jumping in multiple groups... too hard to manage)
4. Trial my Postcard Matching program I wrote.

The 'Postcard Matching' program will allow people to nominate how many cards they'd like to send, and it creates matches up to those maximums. People who opt in for the maximum get allocated as many times as possible, but most likely won't be the maximum. It works like this...

a) When you sign up you nominate how many cards you wish to send. A special category of 'The Max' is for those who don't really want/have a limit.

b) I run my wizz-bang program and I email you the list of people you are matched with. Those people will have you in their list, so you are doing are 'exchange', not just sending them one.

c) you send each person on your list a card.

An example will probably explain it better...

Participants List
Name (Maximum Cards where M means 'The Max')
Agnes (2)
Art (M)
Dave (4)
David (M)
Gary (M)
Nigel (3)
Peter (M)

Matches
Participant Buddy
Agnes Gary
Agnes Peter
Art David
Art Gary
Art Nigel
Art Peter
Dave David
Dave Peter
David Art
David Dave
David Gary
David Nigel
David Peter
Gary Agnes
Gary Art
Gary David
Gary Peter
Nigel Art
Nigel David
Nigel Peter
Peter Agnes
Peter Art
Peter Dave
Peter David
Peter Gary
Peter Nigel

So, in this scenario, those that nominated a maximum number get that, and the others get a variable amount of matches to fill out all the posibilities... eg. Art gets 4 matches out of a possible 6, David (5/7) and Peter (6/7)


So, since we're a week behind our month behind schedule, I'm going to ask for your opinions for a week... then the method choosen will be declared and you'll get the chance to 'sign up' over the remaining two weeks of this month.

Let the discussions begin! :)

Bob F.
09-06-2006, 05:11 AM
Might want to start a poll to make counting easier (ask Marco if you don't know how ! ;) )...

I have a preference for (2) = current method, but would not be too distraught if (4) won the vote.

Cheers, Bob.

Nige
09-06-2006, 05:16 AM
poll added...

please only vote if your already a participant or are extremely likely to join in...

Mick Fagan
09-06-2006, 06:24 AM
I've already printed 50 postcards in anticipation of the next round. These were done a month ago, I've already got a neg ready for the next round past that.

The way we are going we'll be able to get the Christmas cheap rate, from Australia Post.

I'm with Bob, I prefer the current situation, but would live with your number four scenario.

Mick.

gr82bart
09-06-2006, 09:41 AM
Holy game theory algorithims batman! I'll go with 2, but I think 4 is sexier!

Regards, Art.

rst
09-06-2006, 11:02 AM
I definitely opt for Niges little programme. This will allow for more people to participate into the postcard exchange, even if they are not able to spend the money to send e.g. 100 postcards.

Regards
-- Ruediger

BWKate
09-06-2006, 03:23 PM
I'm willing to try Nige's new fangled program so that means I'm for number 4.

Derek Lofgreen
09-06-2006, 03:36 PM
Keeping it the way it is works with me. Makes it easier for Nige.

D.

Anupam Basu
09-06-2006, 03:52 PM
I am not signed up for the exchange but would gladly participate if I could choose how many cards I want to send/receive. The reason I did not sign up earlier was that 50 cards represents a significant investment of not only time but also money. So I voted for the fourth option.

-A

Brian Jeffery
09-06-2006, 04:15 PM
I would really love to join the postcard exchange, but as I've not done this before I'm not sure how many postcards I'll be able to produce. With this in mind option 4 looks good to me. Would you be to change your number in the next round. That is reduce the number of postcards if it was too much or up the number if everything went well?

Brian

Nige
09-06-2006, 04:46 PM
yep, each round when you sign up you'd nominate how many cards you wanted to swap. Based on previous feedback, I can see the majority opting in for the maximum, but actually getting a few less due to the few that want to do a limited number. I've run this with our full list of 50 odd people nominating a few with limits, and the 'Max' ones all came out in the mid to high 40's.

MattKing
09-06-2006, 04:58 PM
As I am limited to printing using tubes, 50 postcards would be brutal :rolleyes: .

The opportunity to limit my involvement to something like 16 or 24 would make it workable for me.

Matt

BWKate
09-06-2006, 05:20 PM
I would vote for 25 postcards to be my limit.

Tom Kershaw
09-06-2006, 05:52 PM
I would prefer the current option to continue. Yes, it does represent a small investment in time and money to produce say 50 cards, but I have had great fun in receiving the cards for round 7. I may however need to sit Round 8 out as I'll probably be moving house in October and sending to the right address might get confusing.

YMMV

Tom.

Aggie
09-06-2006, 05:54 PM
I would prefer the current option to continue. Yes, it does represent a small investment in time and money to produce say 50 cards, but I have had great fun in receiving the cards for round 7. I may however need to sit Round 8 out as I'll probably be moving house in October and sending to the right address might get confusing.

YMMV

Tom.

Just make sure that Nige has your correct address when he sends us the list. Should be no worries with the mailings then.

Buster6X6
09-06-2006, 06:13 PM
Hi Nige
I would like to have about 50 cards or opt for your #4 option.

Greg

gr82bart
09-10-2006, 09:21 AM
Nige,

I say we cut our losses and move on. There hasn't been a postcard from the last round in several weeks, I am not expecting anymore. I predicted a 10%-20% deadbeat rate and have resigned myself to that fact in all the exchanges. It's just part of human nature in general.

Let's get the next round going and cull the ones that haven't sent out postcards from the last rounds. Catering to the "slow and weak", who are in the minority, is bad for all. Just a suggestion.

Regards, Art.

Tom Kershaw
09-10-2006, 01:21 PM
Nige,

I say we cut our losses and move on. There hasn't been a postcard from the last round in several weeks, I am not expecting anymore. I predicted a 10%-20% deadbeat rate and have resigned myself to that fact in all the exchanges. It's just part of human nature in general.

Let's get the next round going and cull the ones that haven't sent out postcards from the last rounds. Catering to the "slow and weak", who are in the minority, is bad for all. Just a suggestion.

Regards, Art.

Agree.

Aggie
09-10-2006, 05:12 PM
Art, This is the only time I haven't gotten my postcards out on time. In fact I'm going to No. Utah this Friday and will be printing a few rounds. That should cover this one coming up, and the last one. Thanks for calling me a deadbeat. Many from the beginning of the postcard exchange know I was the one who kept sending them out no matter what, and still hold the record for the most cards ever sent.

Nige
09-13-2006, 04:17 PM
Ok, disscussion time is up and since it's a close run Poll with some swinging votes, I'm going to give Option 4 a try so that a few people who've not participated due to the volume previously, can.

So, please send me (email nigel@apug.org ) your desire to participate and how many cards you'd like to swap. If you want the maximum, indicate 'Max'. If I've already got your postal details, no needto re-send unless theye've changed.

New peoples,

I need
- APUG Name
- Real Name and Postal Address
- working email
- Number of cards to swap (Max means as many as matched with)

My u-beut database will email the matches to you so I must have that aspect right. I'll do a test msg 1st just to make sure.

Two weeks to reply and be included. I'll email those who've already joined Rnd8 to get their swap numbers, and keep and updated list in this thread to show I've recorded your interest.

Cheers, Nige