Amidol + Kentona what formula?

[avandesande]

What amidol combination are you using to print on Kentmere Kentona?

[skillian]

Michael A Smith's Amidol formula works just fine with Kentona. You can get it from his Website at www.michaelandpaula.com

[vet173]

MAS formula works fine with the bromide paper. Havent tried kentona yet though. His formula works good with just about anything.

[donbga]

MAS formula works fine with the bromide paper. Havent tried kentona yet though. His formula works good with just about anything.

Do you mean his Amidol formula for contact printing on AZO or the one he suggests for enlarging papers?

Thanks,

[skillian]

I use his contact printing formula with Kentona with great results. The only thing I change sometimes is the bromide to get a little warmer image tone.

[vet173]

Do you mean his Amidol formula for contact printing on AZO or the one he suggests for enlarging papers?

Thanks,The one for enlarging.

[skillian]

How do you recommend something you haven't tried?

[c6h6o3]

Do you mean his Amidol formula for contact printing on AZO or the one he suggests for enlarging papers?

Thanks,

I've developed contact prints on both Azo and Kentona from the same negative in the same batch of MAS contact printing formula Amidol using the Amidol from the recent Chinese bulk purchase. I also developed both papers (again using the same negative) in Amidol from Artcraft, again using Michael Smith's contact printing formula. We used either 4 or 8 ccs bromide (I can't remember which was which) per liter in these Amidol working solutions.

The results were beautiful for both papers and for both sources of Amidol. The image color of Kentona was superior to my eye. But in any case, the answer to your question is that the contact printing formula works fine for Kentona.

I would be hesitant to even try the enlarging formula because the benzotriazole might really screw up the beautiful color you get with Kentona.

[avandesande]

I was curious to see if I would be stuck using BZ, it seems like the bromide is good enough.
Thanks!

[avandesande]

Okay, I am set up with the Chinese amidol (this stuff is ugly!)
I am having some problems with 'pinking' of the emulsion with kentona if I develop for more than a minute or so. The bromide paper does not seem to be effected.

I am using rapid fixer.... does the same thing about using regular hypo apply? Anyone else having problems with this?

Thanks

[c6h6o3]

I am using rapid fixer.... does the same thing about using regular hypo apply? Anyone else having problems with this?


I use only plain hypo fixer for printing. I think that if you do your problems will disappear.

[juan]

Jim, I have a friend who has tried Kentona - I don't remember the developer, but it was probably Nutrol or Ansco 130. He wound up with a blotchy, cream-colored (coloured) tint to his prints. Have you seen this problem using amidol?
juan

[Bob F.]

I've used Kentona in Neutol WA and Ansco 130 with excellent results (as well as with Ilford Warmtone and Multigrade devs) so I very much doubt your friend's problem was typical. The paper has been widely used for years so any such "blotchy" problem would have come to light many moons ago.

Personal experience tells me that 99% of the time when I have had a problem with any negative or print it was my fault, not the material's fault...

Cheers, Bob.

[c6h6o3]

Jim, I have a friend who has tried Kentona - I don't remember the developer, but it was probably Nutrol or Ansco 130. He wound up with a blotchy, cream-colored (coloured) tint to his prints. Have you seen this problem using amidol?
juan

No

[avandesande]

I tried with hypo fixer, and I was able to wash the prints clean of the pink after a long time. It is kind of annoying trying to figure out what the final look of the print is going to be when it is so highly color. Have you guys had the same experience?
Thanks

[c6h6o3]

I tried with hypo fixer, and I was able to wash the prints clean of the pink after a long time. It is kind of annoying trying to figure out what the final look of the print is going to be when it is so highly color. Have you guys had the same experience?
Thanks

The only time I had any color problems was when I overtoned them in concentrated Kodak RST. They turned a bilious magenta. But in the plain hypo fixer they were a gorgeous warm black. Always.

[avandesande]

I can pretty much get the pink out, interestingly enough with a side by side comparison the kentmere bromide appeared warmer than the kentona. The kentona had a hint of green, and the bromide paper had a very slight purple, much like a hint of selenium toner.
The emulsion is soft though and seems to pick up junk from my water, which is not filtered. I am probably going to give a nod to the bromide paper since it is easier to use, and the tonality to my eyes (other than the color) pretty much the same.

[PHOTOTONE]

What "BULK" purchase of Chinese Amidol? Was that a one time thing? Is it significantly cheaper?

[vet173]

What "BULK" purchase of Chinese Amidol? Was that a one time thing? Is it significantly cheaper?That's all a done deal. If you held a gun to Gregs' head to do another one he would probably say,"shoot".

[avandesande]

Some of the people that help organize the purchase had people back out... you could probably score some with a WTB in the classifieds.