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jnanian
11-06-2009, 09:11 AM
Here ya go--

http://www.photoformulary.com/DesktopModules/StoreProductDetails.aspx?productID=1250&tabid=9&tabindex=2&categoryid=0&selection=0&langId=0&Search=liquid%20emulsion



YES!!!

Kirk Keyes
11-06-2009, 11:02 AM
WOW! Never thought I'd see my name on a movie bill, much less in company with an all-star cast.

yeah - me too!

Kirk Keyes
11-06-2009, 11:05 AM
The availability of Formazo seems to have been a well kept secret. It is now available premixed and ready for coating. It needs a suitable surfactant with some methods of application or on some surfaces and it will need a hardener on all surfaces. It will need to be processed using a hardening fix.


Are there more detailed instructions on the use of Formazo on the Formulary site somewhere? Something that addresses the issues you mention here?

Ian Grant
11-06-2009, 11:24 AM
Not quite sure how I got on the billing just behind Ron (PE) :D

Ian

Photo Engineer
11-06-2009, 11:52 AM
Ian;

That poster was not of my design, but anyhow, I guess the originator felt that you deserved what you got. ;)

Kirk;

There is information here: http://www.photoformulary.com/DesktopModules/StoreProductDetails.aspx?productID=1250&tabid=9&tabindex=2&categoryid=101&selection=0&langId=0

But, that is all I see right now.

PE

Alex Hawley
11-06-2009, 12:33 PM
- but I wouldn't mind coating some rougher papers...

Hi Jason,

I fully enjoyed printing on the coated water color paper samples that Ron sent to me. The look is a cross between silver gelatin and pt/pd. One could really make something of it I think.

Kirk Keyes
11-06-2009, 12:54 PM
Kirk;

There is information here: http://www.photoformulary.com/DesktopModules/StoreProductDetails.aspx?productID=1250&tabid=9&tabindex=2&categoryid=101&selection=0&langId=0

But, that is all I see right now.


It seems like something a bit more indepth might help sell the product...

rmazzullo
11-06-2009, 12:59 PM
WOW! Never thought I'd see my name on a movie bill, much less in company with an all-star cast. Thanks to whoever the "artiste`" may be.

I'll wait until it comes out on DVD.

Tony D
11-06-2009, 01:08 PM
It seems like something a bit more indepth might help sell the product...

The product information is available at this link.

http://www.photoformulary.com/uploads/formazo%20final.pdf

Kirk Keyes
11-06-2009, 02:39 PM
The product information is available at this link.

http://www.photoformulary.com/uploads/formazo%20final.pdf

There we go! Maybe they should link to that page from the page that lists it for sale.

sun of sand
11-07-2009, 12:03 AM
I wonder if it's like this stuff
or "better"
Has anyone tried this product

http://www.costaricacoffeeart.com/lucenta_liquid_light_sensitive_silver_emulsion_man ual.php

dwross
11-07-2009, 11:33 AM
I wonder if it's like this stuff
or "better"
Has anyone tried this product

http://www.costaricacoffeeart.com/lucenta_liquid_light_sensitive_silver_emulsion_man ual.php

This is a good question if it refers to qualitative characteristics -- what do each of the commercial liquid emulsions look like on various substrates and how do they handle. I believe it's the only important question. Perhaps Martin Reed can weigh in here. I'm sure each brand has its own look and I've certainly seen some gorgeous work done with the 'liquid emulsions'.

What these products are not about is ease of use. Give or take a step or two at most, making your own brew is not a bit more difficult or complicated than preparing a commercial product for coating and it is far and away less expensive. The costarica stuff is insanely expensive. It's just salted gelatin. You still have to buy the silver nitrate.

I guess I might as well drop in a shameless plug here. I'll be teaching two silver gelatin classes at the Photographers Formulary next summer. Paper making in June and Dry Plate Photography in August. If Kirk Keyes can arrange vacation time, he'll be helping out. But, I have to say, I hope people don't wait for one thing or another to get started with emulsion making. There is a wealth of information available today, as close as your computer screen. Mostly, it's just a matter of deciding to give it a go.

Denise Ross
www.thelightfarm.com

hrst
11-07-2009, 03:57 PM
I wonder if it's like this stuff
or "better"
Has anyone tried this product

http://www.costaricacoffeeart.com/lucenta_liquid_light_sensitive_silver_emulsion_man ual.php

This seems to be just a rip-off. You have to read further and further and then it comes clear that this is not an emulsion at all. It has no silver halides, it's not light-sensitive. It's just gelatine and chloride (table salt). You have to make the emulsion by yourself, by adding silver nitrate and do precipitation, digestion etc. This "product" may save you a few seconds of measuring chloride but that's it. Buy plain gelatin, it's cheaper.

Or, I may be completely wrong. That manual makes no sense.

David A. Goldfarb
11-07-2009, 04:21 PM
Commercial "albumen paper" sold in the 19th century was just paper coated with salted albumen that still needed to be sensitized with silver nitrate by the photographer--but at least it was coated evenly on paper, so it was something.