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jgjbowen
01-17-2007, 07:27 PM
So it must be good if you and others are using it, correct?

I will go ahead and give it a try since my normal film is now gone.

Thanks much,

Ryan McIntosh

Ryan,

Well, I do have your Iceland Portfolio II and a couple of your other prints to use for reference, so I know first hand that your current materials work for you, and work very well I might add.

I use trays and have found that with my Zone VI compensating developing timer that developing Tmax-400 for 16 minutes @ 68 degrees (Pyrocat-HD 2-2-100) shuffling through the stack every 30 seconds gives me negatives that will give me very good prints on Canadian Grade 2. One of my goals was to find a combination that would work with Canadian Grade 2 Azo since there was so much of it available in 2005, while Grade 3 was and remains quite scarce.

The Zone VI timer allows me to heat up the developer (to 70-73 degrees) and it will compensate by reducing the developing time to the equivalent of 16 minutes @ 68 degrees. Sandy King's articles on the Unblinking Eye site are very educational, and the Azo forum has a lot of info on Tmy and Pryocat-hd. As you probably know, Sandy is always more than willing to share his knowledge should you have any questions.

After all, my goal is to keep one of my favorite young photographers producing prints that I will continue to want to purchase. How's that for a win-win :D

Again, good luck with your search. I'm sure you could use almost any film on the market and make beatiful prints, but the qualities of TMax-400 combined with Pyrocat-hd and Azo are worth investigating, IMHO. I wonder what MAS would use today if his stash of Super-XX ran dry or become too fogged to use?

John

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01-17-2007, 08:45 PM
Ryan,

Well, I do have your Iceland Portfolio II and a couple of your other prints to use for reference, so I know first hand that your current materials work for you, and work very well I might add.

I use trays and have found that with my Zone VI compensating developing timer that developing Tmax-400 for 16 minutes @ 68 degrees (Pyrocat-HD 2-2-100) shuffling through the stack every 30 seconds gives me negatives that will give me very good prints on Canadian Grade 2. One of my goals was to find a combination that would work with Canadian Grade 2 Azo since there was so much of it available in 2005, while Grade 3 was and remains quite scarce.

The Zone VI timer allows me to heat up the developer (to 70-73 degrees) and it will compensate by reducing the developing time to the equivalent of 16 minutes @ 68 degrees. Sandy King's articles on the Unblinking Eye site are very educational, and the Azo forum has a lot of info on Tmy and Pryocat-hd. As you probably know, Sandy is always more than willing to share his knowledge should you have any questions.

After all, my goal is to keep one of my favorite young photographers producing prints that I will continue to want to purchase. How's that for a win-win :D

Again, good luck with your search. I'm sure you could use almost any film on the market and make beatiful prints, but the qualities of TMax-400 combined with Pyrocat-hd and Azo are worth investigating, IMHO. I wonder what MAS would use today if his stash of Super-XX ran dry or become too fogged to use?

John


Thank you so much, John. I'm going to give both Tmax and Tri-x a try and see how it works out with Pyrocat-HD and printing on AZO. I'm sure it will be just fine. The combo of JandC-100 and PcatHD was really not the best, as many people found it gave poor negatives. However, if you spend time with one film and developer, you can really make anything work well.

Do you still have a good quanity of AZO left? After printing the Iceland portfolios, it took my supply down to around 15-20 sheets of both grades, however, each time I get close to running out, some magically turns up from somewhere. I just recently recieved five brand new boxes of both 2-3, so that should cover me for the large body of work I'm producing this year.

I believe that M&P has plenty of XX to last them for the rest of their life, but I seem to remember hearing them say that if it ever ran out, they would probably use HP5. I'm getting together with M&P this weekend and next and finally get to see their Iceland images, which should be very exciting!

All the best,

Ryan McIntosh
www.RyanMcIntosh.net

John Kasaian
02-04-2007, 11:00 PM
The loss of Forte dosen't affect me as much as J&C being temporarily off line. It is a loss or course, and they had some very excellent products, but while the Hungarian has checked out of the ""LF Hotel," Lucky and Era from China are checking in so now there are even more options available!

jstraw
02-04-2007, 11:20 PM
The loss of Forte dosen't affect me as much as J&C being temporarily off line. It is a loss or course, and they had some very excellent products, but while the Hungarian has checked out of the ""LF Hotel," Lucky and Era from China are checking in so now there are even more options available!

Who's selling Lucky and Era sheet film?

mammolo
02-05-2007, 05:46 AM
You can get Rollei r3 in ULF sizes.
...

You mean 12x20? 14x17? 16x20? 8x20?

Where from?

Thanks!

ADOX Fotoimpex
02-07-2007, 08:07 AM
We are happy to supply anyone in the US or elsewhere in the world with Rollei R3 ULF film as long as JandC remains offline.
We offer a flat shipping rate of just 20 EUR to the US.

You can download the Rollei pricelist here: http://www.mahn.net/PLRoll.pdf

You can reach us at: info@fotoimpex.de or 01149 30 28599081 (12-20 CET)

Regards,

Mirko

Dave Wooten
02-07-2007, 10:10 AM
We are happy to supply anyone in the US or elsewhere in the world with Rollei R3 ULF film as long as JandC remains offline.
We offer a flat shipping rate of just 20 EUR to the US.

You can download the Rollei pricelist here: http://www.mahn.net/PLRoll.pdf

You can reach us at: info@fotoimpex.de or 01149 30 28599081 (12-20 CET)

Regards,

Mirko

In sizes: 7 x 17, 8 x 20, 12 x 20, 11 x 14, 14 x 17, 16 x 20, 20 x 24?

Colin Graham
02-07-2007, 10:37 AM
In 9 1/2x12, 11x14, 12x20, 16x20, 20x24 + some rarer small and metric sizes. The 12x20 is 115 euros for 10 sheets, no vat. Not too bad!

John Kasaian
02-07-2007, 10:41 AM
Who's selling Lucky and Era sheet film?

There is a thread on the Large Format forum about Era and IIRC, Lucky being cut to ULF formats. I'm on my way out the door right now, but I'll try to post the link later.

jnanian
02-07-2007, 10:58 AM
forte's closing hasn't really effected me yet.
while i have both an 11x14 and 8x10 camera
i am too poor to buy film, so i am content nowadays to shoot
paper ...

there is another iron in the fire at photowarehouse.
they will be gettin master rolls again
to cut down to any size ... both 125 + 400 speed ..
i got an email confirming the forte-problems did not
change their situation ... they don't have an exact date as to
when the rolls will be up and running ( or is it cutting ? )
and as long as someone doesn't buy a whole roll all at once
(like they did with the 400 speed last time)
there should be film in oxnard --- for a little while at least .....

Jim Chinn
02-07-2007, 01:19 PM
There is a lot of conflicting information about ERA film. I have read either on APUG or on the LF forum that ERA is closing down and also that to get sizes 8x10 or larger you need to place a 100 box order. That latter might explain why you see it for sale on Ebay, supposing that someone has made a large purchase and is reselling it a box at a time.

I have also seen Shanghai film mentioned, although there is some speculation on the LF forum that ERA and Shanghai are the same.

John Kasaian
02-07-2007, 09:44 PM
Try http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?t=19521