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darinwc
02-12-2007, 10:05 PM
Anyone have examples of what they would consider artistic macro photography?

Most macros I have seen fall in two catagories. 1. Insects, which are are very exotic when viewed up close but otherwise ordinary. 2. Small man-made objects, like watches and circut boards. None of the macro photos have stirred an emothional respose in me.

In fact I challenge readers to find any macro photo which would be considered more artistic than technically difficult.

Michel Hardy-Vallée
02-12-2007, 10:07 PM
Weston's work. Where can I claim my prize for winning the challenge?

darinwc
02-12-2007, 10:22 PM
For the record I would consider westons peper as too large to be considered a macro, but others may differ.

darinwc
02-12-2007, 10:24 PM
ah I see you beat me to it. I havent seen to much of his other work. Anything else on the small scale that is worthwhile?

Shawn Dougherty
02-12-2007, 10:27 PM
I suggest you look a little harder, try Edward and Brett Weston, Ansel Adams, Paul Caponigro, Ruth Bernard, Michael A. Smith, Paula Chamlee, and Minor White to start. You'll enjoy it. Best. Shawn

David H. Bebbington
02-12-2007, 10:40 PM
Dare I invite you to view one of my own humble efforts?
http://www.apug.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16766&ppuser=3714
Most macro shots are of course done for scientific/technical purposes, but if you can get away from that mindset, I think the macro field has a lot of creative possibilities!

Regards,

David

Struan Gray
02-13-2007, 03:41 AM
Felice Frankel:

http://web.mit.edu/felicef/

I am not as enthusiastic about the "Envisioning Science" book as most reviewers (it's very thin, too repetitive of her greatest hits, and padded with half-baked lessons in photography). But, she is an artist in every sense of the word.

Michel Hardy-Vallée
02-13-2007, 07:21 AM
For the record I would consider westons peper as too large to be considered a macro, but others may differ.

Not the peppers, but his artichokes in particular are taken much closer than the peppers. Weston made a whole salad, not just peppers.

Robert Hall
02-13-2007, 07:35 AM
The upcoming issue of Emulsion Magazine is devoted to macro photography. Having seen the proofs, I would highly recommend getting a copy.

Peter Rockstroh
02-14-2007, 07:05 PM
Check out Karl Blossfeldt`s work. Fantastic botanical macro. Andreas Feininger also produced some very interesting images. Spanish photographer Emili Godez was doing stunning macro work in the 1930`s
Today I haven`t found many impressive B&W macro photographers, but there`s quite an array of people doing color work. Rosamond Wolff Purcell is a great example.
Tough challenge.

Peter

Anupam Basu
02-16-2007, 10:42 PM
1. Insects, which are are very exotic when viewed up close but otherwise ordinary.[...]In fact I challenge readers to find any macro photo which would be considered more artistic than technically difficult.

I am not sure what fits this category of "artistic" - black and white, barn doors? What you are saying about insect photography could be applicable to any wildlife photography - do you find any wildlife photography done in color "artistic."

Personally I do both extremes. Nowadays, shooting closeups (mostly insects) is about the only time I shoot color and small format. Everything else is BW medium or large format. I feel I don't try as much to be artistic while shooting insects - perhaps because of the technical challenges that you mention - but they come out quite satsfying nevertheless. Every kind of photography (every kind of art) has its own set of challenges, conventions, rules - entire language games within which they function - taking the language games of barn doors or peppers and imposing it on damselflies is arbitrary. That said, here are a couple of my shots which I quite like as closeups - I did not go out of my way to make them artistic but they came out nice anyway. Now we must decide which language game they fit.

-Anupam

https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/basu/web/gallery/Film%20Scan/Closeups/slides/060504_19.jpg

https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/basu/web/gallery/Film%20Scan/Closeups/slides/050603_06.jpg

David H. Bebbington
02-16-2007, 11:33 PM
I am not sure what fits this category of "artistic" - black and white, barn doors? What you are saying about insect photography could be applicable to any wildlife photography - do you find any wildlife photography done in color "artistic."


I think the distinction is quite clear - technical and scientific macro work calls for the maximum amount of factual information in a picture, which in turn calls for high sharpness, deep focus and flat lighting (as does technical photography of any kind). An artistic approach would (or at least could) move away from any or all of these and aim to communicate emotion rather than fact.

Regards,

David

Anupam Basu
02-16-2007, 11:39 PM
I think the distinction is quite clear - technical and scientific macro work calls for the maximum amount of factual information in a picture, which in turn calls for high sharpness, deep focus and flat lighting (as does technical photography of any kind).

I thought the first post in this thread was talking about "macro photography" and whether it can be artistic - how does "technical and scientific macro work" come into this? Did I misunderstand the subject under discussion?

-Anupam

Taurus 8
02-17-2007, 12:03 AM
I'm keenly reading this thread, trying to learn as much about Macro as I can...just got a Kiron 105mm f/2.8 and I think my first task will be to shoot a decent enough photo for my Avatar!

John

David H. Bebbington
02-17-2007, 12:05 AM
I thought the first post in this thread was talking about "macro photography" and whether it can be artistic - how does "technical and scientific macro work" come into this? Did I misunderstand the subject under discussion?

-Anupam

What I meant was that technical and scientific macro work is meant to be (and is) completely non-artistic (i.e.factual) and therefore uses a certain style, which, however, is not the only possible style - I was suggesting that a different approach could be more artistic.

Regards,

David

Anupam Basu
02-17-2007, 12:13 AM
just got a Kiron 105mm f/2.8

The first photo in my post above was made with the Vivitar avatar of that lens - I just love its sharpness and smooth out of focus rendition. Also one of the best handling lenses I've owned.

-Anupam

Mark H
02-17-2007, 06:43 AM
I've tried to capture some abstract floral shots...here are 3 images of a Datura plant from bud stage to seed pod.

DannL
02-17-2007, 10:19 AM
I've tried to capture some abstract floral shots...here are 3 images of a Datura plant from bud stage to seed pod.

Nice work, Mark. I was at a point in my life were I needed some inspiration. Thank you.


Below is a Cicada Killer Wasp who met his demise in my garden. I placed his carcass on a pin, where he dried quite nicely. I took a 8x10 LF camera and added several tiffen close-up lenses and loaded the camera with Ilford MGIV RC paper. I lit the wasp up with a 250W halogen spot light and took the long exposure required to create a good paper negative. The rest was accomplished on the computer. Sadly for the wasp he spent too much time under the spot light and caught fire. A gastly smell. We live and we learn. So, can this be considered artistic macro?

Dan Fromm
02-17-2007, 03:17 PM
<snip> So, can this be considered artistic macro?No, incompetence passed off as art.

jnanian
02-17-2007, 06:56 PM
wasn't technically difficult
just used a graflex slr with makeshift
diopters/lenses, raked the bellows all the way out
and exposed expired film .....

don't know if it (they) are artistic either,
i was just having fun :)

john