View Full Version : Lith print exchange, anybody interested?

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08-22-2007, 01:44 AM
7. that cool feeling of getting something in the mail

any other ideas please chime inYes,

8. that cool feeling of putting something done into the mail.

-- Ruediger

08-22-2007, 03:02 AM
Count me in too. 9

08-22-2007, 04:43 AM
Also, I'd rather not ship outside the US so maybe a US contingent and a Eu one.

I'm not keen on that one. It only costs me a few pence more to send a print to the USA than the rest of Europe.

How about using the rules for the standard group print exchange -- they're well tried and tested.

However, if some people are concerned that they are beginners then we could use the alternative print exchange system. People list if they are experienced, intermediate or a beginner and the organiser sorts people into groups so that there is a mixture of abilities.



08-22-2007, 05:13 AM
I'd like to see it mixed up - beginners and experts. International mailing doesn't scare me, and I love getting mail from far away places. Sly

08-22-2007, 11:26 AM
Half the fun of the postcard thing is receiving pictures from (and sending to) faraway places, so personally I'd hope we don't separate EU/US.

Also purely my personal opinion, I think the absolute beginners and the experts should be 'mixed up'. It's not a competition (is it?,) so as a beginner I'd consider it an honour and inspiration to receive an expertly created print. Of course the expert who receives my rubbish one may not be so keen, but not everyone can be a winner ;)

However it's organised anyway I'm sure it'll be great - looking forward to it!

Travis Nunn
08-22-2007, 11:32 AM
I'm with Sly on this one, I don't mind sending overseas and it's really kind of neat to get a print from someone in another country.

As far as the beginner/expert thing, in the Alt print exchange you're asked to rate yourself (Expert/Intermediate/Beginner) and then the groups are divided rather evenly with all three in one group. I don't really see a reason to do that but if others want that, I'll go along with it.

08-22-2007, 02:12 PM
Every exchange I've participated in has been 100% international shipping for me. So what? That's the price I have to pay to be on any kind of exchange.

As to sizes and mounting/matting:

I usually print on either 8x10" or 9.5x12" paper, with somewhat varying margins depending on film format and whether I want to crop anything.

I have learned that a well packed unmounted print has a far better "survival rate" in international shipping. Mats tend to arrive damaged, too. So I will ship mine unmounted and unmatted.

Since 8x10" is far easier to fit in a reasonably standard-sized padded envelope that's probably what I will use. Unless the picture just wants to be bigger, of course... :)

08-22-2007, 04:18 PM
Around 8x10 max, unmounted, unmatted works for me...

08-22-2007, 07:28 PM
Around 8x10 max, unmounted, unmatted works for me..
I agree, and I'm ok with shipping prints anywhere.

Mark Fisher
08-23-2007, 12:14 AM
I've been wanting to try lith. I have the chemicals and an image I want to try it on........this could be the push I need.....count me in.

08-23-2007, 12:37 AM
... I would appreciate to know the materials used, dilutions, exposure times, etc. Details that would otherwise take a long time to experiment with. ...

I second this. Part of the fun and frustration of lith printing is the infinite variability, but it can be a good help to have at least a starting point if trying to get a specific tone or look.

BTW - how do people feel about RC paper? I'll probably use FB anyway, but I have some RC papers that give very unusual results... :)

08-23-2007, 12:58 AM
I don't think we should say fiber prints only...I've made prints on kodak transtar tp5 that are a bit unique and that paper was only available in rc. I think we should keep things as open as possible regarding materials, printing experience, location. I hope we don't even put any kind of size limits...if someone wants to send 20x24 prints that's up to them and their pocket book and if someone makes jewel like 4x5s that they are proud of that should be fine too. One thing we could do to lessen international shipping costs is to allow loose prints. I will send matted prints cause that's how I want them to be seen but I wouldn't expect the same, it will only take some of the fun out of this to make too many rules.

I do think it would be helpful to mix up the groups if we have everyone rate themselves as beginner, intermediate, or experienced. This is not a competition, this is the opposite of that. So hopefully people won't be bashful and worried that others will judge them if they put that they are experienced. I've been printing in lith for about 12 years now so I'm not afraid to say I'm experienced at this. If you've been doing this for a long time please say so. It will make this more fun to me if we get a good mixture of levels in each individual group.

Travis Nunn
08-23-2007, 01:16 AM
I think the statement "I think we should keep things as open as possible regarding materials, printing experience, location." pretty much sums up my feelings.

If we're going to rate ourselves, I'd say I'm an Intermediate.

08-23-2007, 05:45 AM
I am a beginner with lith printing but already hooked to this nice and unique process. As to materials, I will print on FB paper (either Fomatone or ADOX Fineprint, both lith well but the Fomatone is much more colorful) size will most likely be 9.5x12 inches and I use Wolfgang Moerschs SE5Lith developer kit. To reduce shipping size I will also send unmounted but well packed prints ;)

I also do not mind sending international. Otherwise I would end up in a one person only group ;)

I am looking forward to this.

-- Ruediger

Gay Larson
08-23-2007, 07:10 AM
I haven't been lith printing for very long but I leave on Sept 9th for Tim Rudman's workshop at the Formulary so hopefully I will be much better at it when I return and I hope whoever's name I get won't be too disappointed.

08-23-2007, 12:13 PM
I'm not sure where to place myself. Maybe 1/2 step up from beginner? I have not yet seen anyone's else's lith prints in the flesh, only on the monitor, so it is hard to compare my stuff with theirs. I'm looking forward to this exchange. Sly

08-29-2007, 05:14 AM

Any more takers?



08-29-2007, 05:24 AM
I also do not mind sending international. Otherwise I would end up in a one person only group ;)

Same here, Ruediger!

I haven't decided anything yet. I don't even know what papers I have, or whether my developer is still usable. If the developer is dead I may mix some from scratch, otherwise I'll use what I have. I can't even remember what it is!

Then it depends on the paper I have: I know I have some Varycon, in both RC and FB, but that may not be the colour I want. And some Forte, but is there enough for the necessary failures? Some Bergger too, which also may be too few sheets.

I'll put myself a notch above beginner, since I've managed to make some lith prints that I actually like - and my wife likes them, too!

08-29-2007, 05:32 AM
I'll put myself a notch above beginner, since I've managed to make some lith prints that I actually like - and my wife likes them, too!

I'd say that I'm the same, beginner to intermediate.

I've got some Fotospeed LD20 and Moersh developer along with Fotospeed lith paper.

I've also got some Kentmere Fineprint WT and Agfa MCC both of which I've managed to get some decent lith prints from.



08-29-2007, 06:46 AM
I would love to participate!