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Will S
09-10-2007, 09:33 AM
Ran across this article on large polaroids:

http://www.making-ripples.com/2006/09/excuse_me_did_y.html

Has some interesting shots of the camera. Evidently the film is going to run out soon for these.

Best,

Will

Roger Hicks
09-10-2007, 09:49 AM
Evidently the film is going to run out soon for these.

Dear Will,

Thanks for the link. Apart from the 'museum' quote I saw nothing to suggest that film was going to run out. Have you further information on this? I have an especially soft spot for these monsters as Polaroid kindly made a 20x24 portrait of my wife and me in 1995 with the Great Camera of Prague; it hangs on my séjour wall yet, a fascinating piece of technology.

Cheers,

Roger

ann
09-10-2007, 09:53 AM
the article talks about that camera disappearing; however , there is more than 1 20x24 camera in use , so perhaps that is where the disconnect is happening.

David A. Goldfarb
09-10-2007, 10:00 AM
No indication of plans to discontinue on the Polaroid website--

http://www.polaroid.com/studio/20x24/rental/index.html

It sounded to me like the blog author just assumed that such things were dinosaurs, and the photographers probably said something like "who knows how long this stuff will be around?" and he may have taken that to mean that the camera was headed for a museum.

Dave Wooten
09-10-2007, 10:11 AM
Tracy Storer a poster on APUG is director of the 20 x 24 camera in California...

Alex Hawley
09-10-2007, 10:25 AM
The writer doesn't seem to know much about what he's writing about. He makes the usual unfounded journalist assumptions. Notice he keeps saying that the photographers "attempt" to "capture" the dancers.

Where's that thread about few women using Large Format? These girls look fairly young too.

SusanV
09-10-2007, 10:49 AM
Linda Broadfoot, a friend of mine uses one of the 20 x 24 cameras for her work.
She does image transfers with those huge sheets... see some of them here at
the Weston gallery... http://www.westongallery.com/artists/l_broadfoot/linda_broadfoot.html

I haven't heard anything about the camera being retired.

Susan

jimgalli
09-10-2007, 12:22 PM
From 11-21 2006. (http://www.electricedge.com/greymatter/archives/00007212.htm) It was on the web so it must be true, right?

Tracy, help us out please.

Robert Hall
09-10-2007, 12:54 PM
I believe we have one here in Salt Lake City at the Waterford School. I have seen some work done in Macro with it. Instant film feedback with that oh-so-true color. ;)

Dave Wooten
09-10-2007, 12:58 PM
From 11-21 2006. (http://www.electricedge.com/greymatter/archives/00007212.htm) It was on the web so it must be true, right?

Tracy, help us out please.

Tracy is busy designing and building some custom camera parts for my 14 x 17, I d rather he not be disturbed right now.
:D

Jim Chinn
09-10-2007, 12:59 PM
I can't speak to the future of the 20x24 Polaroid material, but several photographers working with the big cameras (Tracy among them) have been featured over the last several years in View Camera Magazine. It is always one of my favorite subjects that Steve Simmons covers.

TracyStorer
09-10-2007, 01:17 PM
We've always known Polaroid would stop making the film someday. At present, when that "someday" will be remains uncertain.
I can't tell you how many times in the last 20 years I've heard others say how much they'd love to use the 20x24 someday. Perhaps if everyone interested follows up, we can postpone the inevitable even longer?

Alex Hawley
09-10-2007, 01:31 PM
I can't tell you how many times in the last 20 years I've heard others say how much they'd love to use the 20x24 someday.

Count me in that crowd. Making it happen is the obstacle to overcome.

mark
09-10-2007, 01:40 PM
It is the cost of using the 20x24 that is the big hurdle. At least it is for me. I have had a portrait project in mind for quite a while but it will never happen because of cost. I do like the look of those Polaroids though.

Richard T Ritter
09-10-2007, 01:58 PM
There are quite a few Polaroid 20 x 24 cameras around its a question of who made the camera. Some cameras are better built then others same goes for the processors. I know of 4 cameras myself .

Richard T Ritter
www.lg4mat.net
www.finefocusworkshops.com

Will S
09-10-2007, 02:05 PM
Dear Will,

Thanks for the link. Apart from the 'museum' quote I saw nothing to suggest that film was going to run out. Have you further information on this? I have an especially soft spot for these monsters as Polaroid kindly made a 20x24 portrait of my wife and me in 1995 with the Great Camera of Prague; it hangs on my séjour wall yet, a fascinating piece of technology.

Cheers,

Roger

Neil Gaimon reports it at http://www.neilgaiman.com/journal/2007/09/enormous-polaroid.html, but he is just an author, not a photographer :-) I can only assume that either he is joking or that the photographer told him this. I just sent him a note to see if he would tell his where he heard the info.

Sorry to cause worry. Hopefully it will be good news.

Thanks,

Will

Roger Hicks
09-10-2007, 02:45 PM
Neil Gaimon reports it at http://www.neilgaiman.com/journal/2007/09/enormous-polaroid.html, but he is just an author, not a photographer :-) I can only assume that either he is joking or that the photographer told him this. I just sent him a note to see if he would tell his where he heard the info.

Sorry to cause worry. Hopefully it will be good news.

Thanks,

Will

Dear Will,

Thanks again. Certainly bears further investigation, even if we are all suspicious of the reliability of the reporters.

But the camera phone pic of his portrait suggests that he knows little about photography, and cares less -- though some of his written work is brilliant, especially 'Smoke and Mirrors' and, in collaboration with Terry Pratchett, 'Good Omens'.

Waiting 15 minutes for adjustments suggests a fairly incompetent portraitist, too: I don't recall even 5 minutes.

Cheers,

Roger

wfe
09-10-2007, 03:31 PM
Joyce Tenneson did a wonderful portrait project with one of these. The name of the project escapes me at the moment.

Cheers,
Bill

argus
09-10-2007, 04:30 PM
Linda Broadfoot, a friend of mine uses one of the 20 x 24 cameras for her work.
She does image transfers with those huge sheets... see some of them here at
the Weston gallery... http://www.westongallery.com/artists/l_broadfoot/linda_broadfoot.html

I haven't heard anything about the camera being retired.

Susan

Susan,

the link to the splendid pictures of Linda was something I immeddiately wanted to post also in this thread.

There's one thing I don't get about her work with the 20x24" Polaroids: her images are rather extreme macros requiering a good amount of bellows draw and exposure correction.
I have worked with type59 for some time now and I am not able to get acceptable color (read: no color shift) when doing exposures longer than 1/10th second.

What's Linda's secret on this? The lighting and which?
One thing I can come up with, is using a large aperture as this is possible when photographing rather flat subjects.

Greetings,
G

David A. Goldfarb
09-10-2007, 04:34 PM
Linda Broadfoot's images must be very impressive in person.

Her statement says she shoots in the New York studio, so she has ample strobe lighting available to avoid reciprocity issues. I suspect she's also filtering a bit since the transfer process causes some color shift, and her color looks very neutral.

I have some Type 809 on hand, and now I want to try some macros.