View Full Version : Looking for a good monitor for my computer
I hope this doesn't get me banned from apug! LOL! I am looking for a nice monitor for my PC. I do a fair amount of photoshop work (don't panic, I am working with 100 meg drum scans of my negs) and a ton of gaming. I am looking at the 19 & 21" Sony Monitors. Anyone have any experience with them? I am also going to be purchasing a spyder and software along with it for calibration, but that is a whole nother can o' wurms!
03-26-2003, 05:17 PM
I use a Sony multiscan E540 at work. Plenty big, no glare, very sharp and color acurate. I use it for prepress work for some very big clients and have had no complaints so far.
I have a Sony 21inch Trinitron which I like (nice for gaming too).
PLUS- seems to be very sharp, accurate, great color
MINUS- two grill lines, one at the top and one at the bottom of the screen. Hard to see but annoys some people. I find it highly annoying trying to get the screen adjusted (you go into the settings and make it more wide and high, to find one side is off the screen, when you adjust that then one corner goes off, you try to re-adjust everything using trapezoid, etc, and no luck. It seems almost impossible to get the screen the full width and height of the glass in a perfect square. I ended up having mine 1/4 inch from the sides and top to get a perfect square. It is also a VERY bright screen, I initially had mine turned all the way down and it was still way too bright, I then used my video card to dim it down a little and it's been fine. I'm dreaming of the day IBM's 300dpi flatpanel is within consumer reach (right now mostly for medical use).
I'm currious about the grill lines, I've read alittle about them. Sounds kind of strange to me. I'll have to go to a store to check them out first. I've got a 19" Compaq CRT at work that is totally oversaturated. The screen is not square at all either.
I have a Sony E200 17" screen at home and it has the grill lines. Thought I'd gotten a dud at first! A bit of asking around turned up that it's normal!!! What a design feature... You get used to ignoring them (depending on what's on the screen they can be hard to actually see) They can come in handy to check horizons in pics http://apug.org/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
Get either a Mitsubishi or Sony, the biggest one you can afford. These are far superior to all other CRTs and current LCDs out there for imagimg work. The grids are a non issue for me, compared to the image quality the trinitron/diamondtron technology brings along with those thin lines. That spyder thing is great, basically "priceless" if you do color correction.
I use a Mitsubishi 22" with Spyder and Pantone OptiCal software, and can't ask for more in terms of image quality of the monitor and consistency with Durst Lambda output.
I'm stuck between the 19" sony and the 21". Any opinions on size? I am leaning to the 19" for budget reasons now...
03-28-2003, 08:21 PM
I use the sony 19" at home but would prefer the 21" Desk space and viewing distance is problematic with the 21" At a previous job I had the 21" it was great but it required a 40" deep desk (it would have been impossible in a cube) so that I could be sufficiently away from the monitor and still have room for the keyboard in front and the wall behind.
I got my 21inch Sony used. It was 2 years old and nearly 1/4 the price of a new one. It's been fine and looks new. You could have a look around some used shops in town...
03-29-2003, 12:11 AM
03-29-2003, 07:31 PM
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Aggie @ Mar 28 2003, 09:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Trillium press... They are totally against epson printers for many reasons, but the one that stood out was the problems of color and the print process. For those of us home bodies that do not attend a special class to learn that there is also another gizmo needed to get the color balance right for the epson printers. So consider this if you are going to use any kind of home printer for use with photoshop.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I'm not sure what Trillium press is referring to nor do I profess more knowledge then they, but epsons, in my experience are not much different than any other output device. Epson printers, as in all digital and to lesser or different degree traditional ink on paper printers, require that the printer either be calibrated or the file must be 'prepared/adjusted' prior to being printed so that it looks as it did on your monitor.
For digital printers one way to do this is to have an application that prints a scale to the printer, measures the scale and creates a look up table (lut) or something equivalent to a curve in Photoshop. This LUT is applied to all images prior to printing. These apps require a reflective densitometer. This includes adjustments being made for individual papers or printing materials.
Some printers (most professional printers) have the ability to calibrate themselves either through an 'onboard' densitometer or via input for an external densitometer. These printers will either keep separate 'profiles' for all the calibrated print materials (and in some cases, like colorspans, keep tables for different inks and papers) or recommend recalibration when ever the media is changed. None of epson's printers have this capability -- not even their 'professional printers.'
This doesn't, in my mind, make them bad printers nor is it to say that their are not a lot of good reasons to dislike epson's products.
In fact unless you wish to spend in excess of 5k they are by far the best bang for the buck. Just make sure you buy it with replacement insurance, replace their ink cartridges with a good quality continuous flow system, and keep all the packaging and cartridges. This last bit is so you can put it back to its original state when you return it for a replacement when it dies.
Don't they sell some device that corrects the monitor to the printer. Something called "Spider" something or other? That is what all the digi people I know use so they can see what the color is gonna look like BEFORE they print it. If I am wrong on this please dont bring it up as I am living in a fantasy world now.
Don't they sell some device that calibrates the monitor to the printer. Something called "Spider" something or other? That is what all the digi people I know use so they can see what the color is gonna look like BEFORE they print it. If I am wrong on this please don't bring it up as I am living in a fantasy world now. =[8^)....
03-31-2003, 11:30 AM
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lee @ Mar 31 2003, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Don't they sell some device that calibrates the monitor to the printer. Something called "Spider" something or other? That is what all the digi people I know use so they can see what the color is gonna look like BEFORE they print it. If I am wrong on this please don't bring it up as I am living in a fantasy world now. =[8^)....
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The spider is used to calibrate your monitor so that blue looks blue and red red and so on. The thing I was talking about is software and thingy to make the printer print blue to look blue and red red and so on.