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epatsellis
12-10-2007, 11:18 PM
I think the more appropriate measurement is by pain.

Large format = moderate lower back pain when hiking more than 1 mile roundtrip.

ULF = a crippling inablility to move the next morning after a 1 mile hike.

Some days I shoot LF, some days it feels like ULF. :)

Paul, don't you mean a crippling inability to move the next morning after a 100 yard hike???


erie

Paul Cocklin
12-11-2007, 12:20 AM
erie, you may have hit on something there. ULF has the ability to alter distances. It makes 100 yards feel like a mile.

walter23
12-11-2007, 12:27 AM
So, by your definition, 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 sheet film, and 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 sheet film are not Large Format at all but medium-format, even though they are sheet-film?

I've already told you the absolute dogmatic truth. Do not question it with examples of ambiguities because there are no ambiguities.

Ole
12-11-2007, 01:02 AM
I still like the definition another website uses, that LF starts at 100 square centimeters. That includes 9x12cm, but excludes 6.5x9cm.

By stretching that definition a little, ULF starts at 600 square centimeters. 8x10" is 500 cm^2, so falls below that limit. 24x30cm (9.5x12") is 720 cm^2, and is above the limit.

David Brown
12-11-2007, 12:23 PM
7x17 ... - anorexic format

Isn't that what you used to shoot?

:D:D:D

scootermm
12-11-2007, 01:15 PM
Isn't that what you used to shoot?

:D:D:D

indeed, and given my the "robustness" Ive come to... the natural progression was a larger and more proportionally "husky" format...
hence the 12x20 now.

:)

argus
12-11-2007, 01:52 PM
ULF is just a buzzword, but it's nice to be a self-proclaimed member of such an exclusive - but open - club.

Most consider 7x17" already ULF, but that's only valid for the longest side, a 7" high negative is not very impressive but if you combine that with almost 2.5 times its width...!!!

I do agree that anything larger than 8x10" could be considered ULF, only because of the practicability in the field.


7x17 ... - anorexic format
well, YOU made vertical images with it! :D

Scooter, can I make you yealous when I say that I'm going to Fontainebleau end of december? Not for bouldering but for making 7x17" images.
OK, call it gross and decadent :p


I think I once posted that "ULF" is what you say when you realize you've just bought a very large camera, and you realize you need more darkroom space, and more storage space for the negs and proofs, and you can't make small proof prints, and you need a bigger lightbox, and even your garbage can isn't big enough for the rejects.

Splendid description, David. I should stick that to my darkroom door.

G

mammolo
12-11-2007, 02:15 PM
Definition of MARKETING:

Is like telling my vertebrae that when I am carrying around my 14x17 I am shooting "medium format" :D

Anyway, I like that. "Medium format" ... Yeah...

scootermm
12-11-2007, 02:21 PM
Scooter, can I make you yealous when I say that I'm going to Fontainebleau end of december? Not for bouldering but for making 7x17" images.
OK, call it gross and decadent :p
...
G

G
Im envious.... that bulbous brainy textured sandstone will make for some fascinating imagery.

although, I will attempt to return the jealousy favor and tell you I plan to visit Hueco Tanks in February purely to photograph with the 12x20
:o :D

argus
12-11-2007, 02:45 PM
G
Im envious.... that bulbous brainy textured sandstone will make for some fascinating imagery.

although, I will attempt to return the jealousy favor and tell you I plan to visit Hueco Tanks in February purely to photograph with the 12x20
:o :D

Hueco Tanks?

No thanks, I bet you'll take 10 sherpas to carry a ton of batteries and lights to capture those undercling pockets :p

G

photomc
02-12-2008, 07:49 PM
After reading the article on film holders by Michael Mutmansky in the current View Camera, found what I consider the most appropriate description of these various formats. Michael refers to them as Exotic Large Format or ELF, which pretty much covers it for me. This would include the 5x8,5x12, 7x11, 10x12, etc.

scootermm
02-12-2008, 08:38 PM
exotic like a hula lady in a grass skirt and coconut bikini?

thats hot.

:)

photomc
02-12-2008, 09:15 PM
sounds a lot more interesting than LF or ULF doesn't it :D

lotto
02-12-2008, 09:41 PM
UFL= 11X14 and larger (my 2 cents worth)

Jim Fitzgerald
02-12-2008, 09:42 PM
I would agree that it is anything larger than 8x10. Also if you can't find a backpack big enough to carry it in! 11x14 and yp.

Jim

23mjm
02-12-2008, 09:59 PM
Ah who cares it's all fun ;)

To me LF requires a view type camera and shoots sheet film ULF just a huge LF I'd say 11X14.

JohnArs
02-13-2008, 04:20 AM
It starts at 10x12 and up and thats all!

Armin

Uhner
02-13-2008, 07:03 AM
This is a surreal discussion my father never had... :p