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01-09-2008, 09:15 AM
Good article about how images are being mined off of websites like Flickr and Facebook. More good reason NOT to have online portfolios there.
Oh yeah. Every student at the middle school I work at has a laptop issued to them and I am constantly hassling them about taking stuff from those sites. Then I had an argument with a teacher who was telling them to do it, then had an argument with the principal who gave them permission. No one understands the idea of copyright. It took a memo from the superintendent (who had to clarify it with the lawyer) to get these adults on my side. Maybe now we can make some headway.
01-27-2008, 10:36 AM
I like the way the internet has linked us all up and we all have access to each other's private lives to the degree that anyone wants to put their info and details on line. It leads to mass sharing, and taking anything and everything. It also leads to world wide communication possibilities. I think a person needs to be aware that anything from a thought to an image might be accessed and used by someone you don't know for purposes you can't guess if you put it in the "public domain". I like having that element.
I believe there are safeguards against invasion of privacy if you want them with passwords and such. Also I think a professional image maker can find software to stop the downloading of images. Or he can take the attitude I have, the more people that steal a low rez version of one of my images and puts it out there the better. I don't think anything bad comes from that. A person who is satisfied with a 72 dpi small version of one of my images is never going to buy an original print. But my image might get just a tiny bit more recognizability in the world somewhere. I download images all the time and put them on my desktop for awhile just to think about them or sometimes be inspired about something about them. If I went to a middle school class.. (which I recently did to give a talk) and found that the students had been to my web site and downloaded images and had them on their desktops.. I would be pleased to no end. If a student really loved an image I would probably try to get an actual print to that student for free.
All that said, if a mega rich corporation showing images on national TV decides to take an image off the internet and use it, legal rights or not they should have enough class to try to contact the person and get permission and cut them a check. To me the perfect outcome to the story would be that the TV network apologizes and sends the woman a thousand bucks. And threaten to fire whoever did it if they ever do it again.. and it stays out of the courts.
That is my opinion.
01-27-2008, 11:51 AM
If a giant corporation takes a photo from one of my posts on flickr ipernity facebook else where, it wouldn't be the first time I'd been ripped off. Copyright has been so blatantly ignored on the Internet, that perhaps things will have to change. For instance, lets say you want to make a movie using commercial products, other peoples music, even video, film clips etc,... stills Let's say your entire project is bootlegged, Pauls Boutique, the Beastie boys is an example of copyright infringement. Copyright may be repealed like Prohibition.
Perhaps the only way to ensure your images are not capitalized on by someone else, is to not make images. Digital are linked to satellites, much as cell phones etc,... all digital photographs created by modern cameras are beamed directly to a huge main frame computer somewhere, so even if you delete an image it's already been instantly captured by some entity, corporation etc, who has created a storage vault for all current digital camera emissions. When they find a way to imbed film with a chip to essentially do the same thing we'll all be in trouble. It's not fair that commercial entities are exploiting the masses, but if it shows a profit margin they will continue to do this. For every stolen image that goes to court, there will be millions they get away with pilfering. It's a free for all.
01-27-2008, 12:14 PM
I found a web site that used all my photographs. It was like somebody redesigned my web site as part of an assignment from Iowa State University. That was annoying. Especially since the blatant redesign was on the university's server.
Someone hot linked one of my images as the welcome page to their internet forum. I am not sure what was worse. That there were no postings on the forum, or they hot linked my image.
The best you can do is keep the resolution at 72 dpi and hope most of the world is honest.
01-27-2008, 12:25 PM
I read about this a week or so ago. It's boyond annoying that a national network that plasters their own copyrights all over their broadcast can be so cheap and lazy to not inform or compensate someone whose photograph they used. Then they always conveniently blame some intern who "doesn't know". Right... the intern was the only one who had anything to do with the graphics, and yeah right... no one else approved the graphic on the food chain thought to ask. Riiiiight.........
They figured... ah, it's just a snap, they won't mind and we won't have to hire a pro.
Edited to add this link... it is a great blog by a photography editor with some strong opinions about copyright and protecting it.
01-27-2008, 12:45 PM
If you put it up on the web, it's fair to expect somebody will use it for something, if they can. No amount of legal work can change that simple fact. Pretending for a moment that there aren't any people who'd willingly pirate copyable data (and this takes a large effort of make believe), there's also the fact that most stuff on the web is reachable from worldwide locations.