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Dave Miller
03-15-2008, 12:25 PM
I've just ordered a spare ground glass screen from your site Geert, and a pack of your film to test. Good luck with the film sales, any chance you could do 50 sheet packs?

argus
03-18-2008, 06:40 PM
Hi All,

I would like to offer the ULF community the possibility of getting into group orders for specific film formats. Wephota is available in 25, 100 and 400 ASA film speed (400 ASA not for all sizes).

I'm thinking of organising a grouped order every x months in a specific format, if there is enough interest in such.

For those interested in the purchase of sheet film in sizes 11x14" and above, and odd sizes (think about whole plate here, or 4x10", 5x12" ...), please drop me an email or a PM stating the size and film speed and number of boxes (per 25 sheets) you would be interested in.
There is no obligation of purchase in this enquiry.

After I evaluated the interest in specific formats, I will re-announce (or maybe cancel, worst-case) a group purchase for a specific film format (open for 30 days) on LF.info and apug.org so people who might have missed it can still tune in.

As shipping outside the EC is not inexpensive, I'd like to have contact with one person who could handle the import and redistribution in his/her area (not Europe). Conditions can be spoken of. If this can not be arranged, there will be individual overseas shipping costs per order.


Kind regards,
Geert

argus
03-18-2008, 06:49 PM
I've just ordered a spare ground glass screen from your site Geert, and a pack of your film to test. Good luck with the film sales, any chance you could do 50 sheet packs?


Dave,

50 sheet boxes are not available, I'm sorry.

Geert

mikez
03-19-2008, 01:00 AM
http://www.digitaltruth.com/chart/special/webphot.html

Some more info on Wephota. Do they ship to the US? I'd like to give it a shot.

argus
03-19-2008, 02:27 AM
http://www.digitaltruth.com/chart/special/webphot.html

Some more info on Wephota. Do they ship to the US? I'd like to give it a shot.


Hello Mikez,

I don't know if you can purchase directly from them, But I surely ship to the US.

To all,

please be carefull with the information on digitaltruth regarding the Wephota films, as it is outdated. (Fortepan being listed is the proof, and they no longer supply from Efke...)
All emulsions are ORWO style now.

Kind regards,
Geert

photo8x10
03-19-2008, 02:42 AM
Hi
Very intyeresting about ULF, now I'm trying the 8x10 films and after I'll order 8x20 films, I hope in this format could be possible have also iso 400.

Best
Stefano

Colin Graham
03-21-2008, 10:57 AM
Believe it or not, there is a political dimension to the obscure art of film production, coating and marketing.

Frankly I don't give a monkey's toss where the film is produced, EU or not. No offence, but it's as nauseating as hearing whether Leica lenses are produced in Canada or Germany; Rollei lenses in Singapore or Japan or Germany; Carl Zeiss lenses in Germany AE version or Japanese MM versions,; whether Polaroid Type 55 is really Panatomic X from 50 years ago; whether... in this age of globalisation... AArgh. I'm going to have a wobbly. Sorry.

As Sandeha says, it's gorgeous in Rodinal. The emulsion is traditional; high quality tonal rendition and ultra-fine grain (NP15). If Geert can get it in whole plate format for export for enthusiasts, then why not support Wephota? It's not like it's some large Japanese digital corporation like Nokia behind it.


Digitaltruth lists many of the wephota emulsions as having the same developing times as various efke and forte films. I get tried of trying new film only to discover it's the same film I've already experimented at length with. I agree with Matti, that game gets old. Toss all the monkeys you want, but is there any info available about the film anywhere? I've googled it but can only find speculation in forums.

argus
03-21-2008, 12:50 PM
is there any info available about the film anywhere? I've googled it but can only find speculation in forums.

Colin, do you know Orwo? Well, it's basically the same. I have more info in that now.

Kind regards,
Geert

Colin Graham
03-21-2008, 03:33 PM
Thanks very much Geert, I'll check it out. I'm running low on odd-sized fp4+ and getting a little panicky.

Anscojohn
03-21-2008, 03:43 PM
I had very good results shooting ORWO NP15 in 35mm back in ye oldene dayz when that film was manufactured at a plant of the people's own undertaking VEB), fwiw.
John, Mount Vernon, Virginia USA

argus
03-21-2008, 05:17 PM
...odd-sized...

Colin,

that was my main reason to team up with Wephota: they are very flexible in the most different sheetfilm sizes.

Geert

Rob_5419
03-24-2008, 06:11 PM
Digitaltruth lists many of the wephota emulsions as having the same developing times as various efke and forte films. I get tried of trying new film only to discover it's the same film I've already experimented at length with. I agree with Matti, that game gets old. Toss all the monkeys you want, but is there any info available about the film anywhere? I've googled it but can only find speculation in forums.

Wow! Bananas. This monkey I tossed just rebounded.

Matti's made his point clearer now. His first post didn't convey that. Lol. Try the film data sheet.

Uncle Goose
03-25-2008, 03:59 PM
Do they make Rollfilm too??

argus
03-25-2008, 04:08 PM
Do they make Rollfilm too??

They distribute rolfilm from other brands but I won't stock or sell them as I am concentrating on sheet film only.

Kind regards,
Geert

Colin Graham
03-25-2008, 07:49 PM
Try the film data sheet.


Well, yes, I'd sincerely love to. But I can't find any info, as I said in my post. Sorry to be so high maintenance, but I can't seem to find any data sheets for orwo or wephota. If you have any links or data you can share that would be great.

matti
04-03-2008, 02:50 PM
Maybe I should get some of this in 8x10 to try out with my big new to me Ansco-camera that is on the way. I see 100 is in stock (I don't have any shutter so 400 will be too fast for portraits...)
Anyone have a starting point this film in Pyrocat-HD?
10 minutes @ 20 C?
/matti

Marc Leest
04-06-2008, 06:42 AM
Hello Geert,

I placed my order now for 8x10 sheets.
Since there is a little confusion about the processing times etc, could a datasheet of the film be made available.
I would e interested in processing this film in rotary in id11 stock and rodinal 1:50 tray.

thx, regards, Marc

Peter De Smidt
04-06-2008, 09:02 AM
This stuff:http://www.filmotec.de/English_Site/Products/products.html ?

argus
04-06-2008, 11:52 AM
Hello Geert,

I placed my order now for 8x10 sheets.
Since there is a little confusion about the processing times etc, could a datasheet of the film be made available.
I would e interested in processing this film in rotary in id11 stock and rodinal 1:50 tray.

thx, regards, Marc

Hi Marc,

I will be processing a test batch in Rodinal 1+50 in tray tonight, 8x10 sheets in 25, 100 and 400ASA.

See mail regarding the ID11.

Kind regards,
Geert

mcfactor
04-29-2008, 10:56 AM
I will try to translate the most important aspects. First a brief look into history: Maco Pan 25, Maco Ortho 25, Maco IR 820, Maco UP 100plus, Maco PO 100, Maco UP 64 and Maco TP 64c were exclusively made by Fotokemika (Efke, Croatia) for Maco. These films were special, selected production runs.This production was independant from the 'normal' Efke production.

The cooperation between Maco and Efke stopped some years ago due to reorganised production structures at Fotokemika. Therefore Maco films made by Fotokemika are history. There is no Efke film in the current Rollei film programme.
Then Fotoimpex started to sell some Efke films under the Adox brand.

Maco introduced a new film programme under the Rollei brand at Photokina 2004. These films are/were made by Filmotec (Wolfen, Germany), Agfa-Gevaert (Mortsel, Belgium) and AgfaPhoto (Leverkusen, Germany).

Rollei Retro 100/400: AgfaPhoto APX 100/400 (last production run in 2005, Leverkusen).
Rollei Pan 25: Made by Filmotec. It is an improved Orwo NP 15 emulsion with finer grain, different base and redesigned for new raw materials and more modern production processes at the new Filmotec plant in Wolfen.
Rollei Ortho 25: Made by Filmotec.
Rollei R: Made by Filmotec.

All other films of the current Rollei film programme, including the new ATP high resolution film and the Superpan 200 film, are made by Agfa-Gevaert in Mortsel (Belgium). If you are interested in some pictures of Agfas current film production, have a look:

http://www.maco-photo.de/files/image...otogr_film.pdf

Maco does not have exclusive contracts with Filmotec and Agfa-Gevaert. Both companies are free to sell some of their products to other distributors.
Filmotec did this with Pan 25 and Ortho 25 (= Adox Pan 25, Adox Ortho 25).
And Agfa-Gevaert is selling some of their films to other distributers as well:
The high resolution films Gigabitfilm, Spur Orthopan UR and Adox CMS 20 are made by Agfa-Gevaert.

If I say 'made by' I mean emulsioning and coating. Cutting, packing etc. is made by other specialists, e.g. Photostar in Germany, but also some others.

Adox:
Adox CHS films: Made by Fotokemika.
Adox CHM films: Made by Ilford (old stock from the time before Ilfords management buy-out in 2005).
Adox CMS 20: Made by Agfa-Gevaert.
Adox Pan 25, Ortho 25: Made by Filmotec.

I hope your questions are now answered.

For some further details you may have a look at:
http://www.aphog.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=46714#46714
http://www.maco-photo.de/files/images/SW_55_06.pdf
http://www.adox.de/english/ADOX_Films/ADOX_Films.html

Best regards from Germany,
Henning

I found this in another thread.http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/46474-rollei-pan-25-adox-pan-25-rollei-ortho-25-adox-pan-25-a-2.html if it is true, and it makes sense, the 25 iso emulsion has to be the same as Rollei Pan 25/Adox pan 25. the only other possibility is Efke 25, which Geert has stated it is not.