View Full Version : Help me please Wayne 03-13-2008, 09:55 PM I had to buy my first d****** camera for a certain job, which, ironically will result in my first published photos and the photos will only be published because of my writing. Ironic huh?
But anyway, to the point. I'm scared. What if it seduces me with convenience? I feel vulnerable and need reassurance.
Wayne JBrunner 03-13-2008, 10:07 PM Where do you live? We are on our way.....:mad:
JK.
Drudgetal is a fact of life with commercial photography and certain other fields. Don't sweat it, I do it to. I have too, or starve.
Convienient? Yes, sort of. Inspiring? Hardly. More like interfacing with a microwave oven, and about as tactile as my dishwasher.
You'll be fine. BradS 03-13-2008, 10:11 PM I threw the microwave out the second story window....THUNK! Christopher Walrath 03-14-2008, 07:16 AM OK Give us the lowdown. Did you get goosepimples when you purchased this illegal device or have bile rise in the back of your throat?
Hey, don't sweat it. You outgrew pimples without it ending your life. Ansel Adams thought commercial work was more or less Whoredom but one most suffer and sacrifice to make photographic ends meet. (I did wince upon reading your post, though. Poor sap.) patrickhh 03-14-2008, 07:26 AM I've started doing photography with a DSLR and went to analog later. Perhaps that calms you down a bit. YMMV. Wayne 03-14-2008, 08:13 AM Ok, thank you all. I feel better now. Fortunately this seductive but cheap looking piece of plastic crap will probably be in the junk heap before I'm thoroughly corrupted.
Wayne jgcull 03-14-2008, 08:27 AM You all make me laugh! (that's a good thing) Wayne 03-14-2008, 11:36 AM Inspiring? Hardly. More like interfacing with a microwave oven.
I think Sean should make this a banner quote...
Wayne Marco B 03-14-2008, 11:59 AM Hardly. More like interfacing with a microwave oven, and about as tactile as my dishwasher.
Considering the amount of time the average d*****l photographer spends looking at his LCD checking c*r*e* and other stuff, instead of looking at his subject, I think this quote is not far from reality..., considering most people do the same thing looking at the microwave to see if their meal is ready :D Doubrovsky 03-14-2008, 12:33 PM I shoot lots of digital and find it inspiring. Digital camera gave me a new perspective of vision and allowed to do things I could not acieve with film (I do not mean commercial achievements as I am a pure hobbyist). It is photography after all. Digital actually helped me to come back to photography after a long sleep. Now I have a bag for my Nikon D80 with a compartment for a vintage 6x9 folding camera and I take them both travelling. Sure digital lacks the feeling of craftsmanship you get when you work so meticulously on your prints, but unique fhotographer's vision and immediacy of capture are present. Get seduced! JBrunner 03-14-2008, 12:35 PM I shoot lots of digital and find it inspiring. Digital camera gave me a new perspective of vision and allowed to do things I could not acieve with film (I do not mean commercial achievements as I am a pure hobbyist). It is photography after all. Digital actually helped me to come back to photography after a long sleep. Now I have a bag for my Nikon D80 with a compartment for a vintage 6x9 folding camera and I take them both travelling. Sure digital lacks the feeling of craftsmanship you get when you work so meticulously on your prints, but unique fhotographer's vision and immediacy of capture are present. Get seduced!
Oops, I just threw up a little in my mouth. :D:D:D:D:D aparat 03-14-2008, 12:41 PM First of all, you should feel good about the prospect of publishing your stuff. Writing and photography often go hand-in-hand. Congratulations! As far as using a digital camera, if you enjoy processing digital images, the seduction will certainly be there. On the other hand, if you're going to rely on out-of-camera images, then you're likely to be disappointed and frustrated with the output, especially in black and white.
Good luck!
aparat It's the pictures that are more important than the equipment IMO and it sounds like combining your writing with your photos is a very exciting thing, congrats !!!
Cheers,
Bill JBrunner 03-14-2008, 01:13 PM It's the pictures that are more important than the equipment IMO and it sounds like combining your writing with your photos is a very exciting thing, congrats !!!
Cheers,
Bill
Yep, all kidding aside, congrats!! haris 03-14-2008, 03:36 PM Uhhhhhhhhh, seduction of digital, I started to remember scenes of sex I read in science fiction stories... nightmares... :)
Today I wondered through my town and think in a past year I saw many people with digital SLRs. Then I remembered in times before digital, majority of peole I saw with P/S cameras. SO wheN i saw someone with SLR I allways thought it must be some serious photographer, because all others (tourists, people who have 2 birthdays and 2 newsyears on same froll of film) used P/S. So, I thought "Ok, if people (let say not serious photographers) stared to use digital SLRs more than they used film SLRs in past, maybe the will become serious photograhers, so there will be atleast one good from that evil of digital". Then I remembered few days ago one "photographer" who used DSLR and flash on camera for particular photo, and his words "Oh, this photograph is too bright, I will have to shoot at speed 1/500 instead of 1/125"...
There is no hope... :) Wayne 03-14-2008, 03:52 PM Well thanks. The photography is not very exciting, its just documenting a museum piece that I've written about. The article has been accepted, but they havent even seen the photos. It sort of feels like work to have to take the photos using digital (they said they preferred it), but I'm not complaining. Not because my photos will be published (anyone's photos of the object would suffice, and they said so), but because they are helping my writing get published. Its all very ironic, I havent even tried to publish my photos, I've been shooting film for 40 years and yet here I am, my first d***** images ever will get published. It doesnt seem right. But I can probably use the d****** camera for future science/natural history that doesnt really warrant large format. I dont see using it for anything else, no portraits, no art. no landscapes. I dont see ever printing from files. Phew!
But I was worried for a few minutes when I took it out of the box. I'm already bleary-eyed from reading the directions.
Wayne JBrunner 03-14-2008, 03:56 PM Well thanks. The photography is not very exciting, its just documenting a museum piece that I've written about. The article has been accepted, but they havent even seen the photos. It sort of feels like work to have to take the photos using digital (they said they preferred it), but I'm not complaining. Not because my photos will be published (anyone's photos of the object would suffice, and they said so), but because they are helping my writing get published. Its all very ironic, I havent even tried to publish my photos, I've been shooting film for 40 years and yet here I am, my first d***** images ever will get published. It doesnt seem right. But I can probably use the d****** camera for future science/natural history that doesnt really warrant large format. I dont see using it for anything else, no portraits, no art. no landscapes. I dont see ever printing from files. Phew!
But I was worried for a few minutes when I took it out of the box. I'm already bleary-eyed from reading the directions.
Wayne
Maybe trade it in for a scanner... best o both worlds. snegron 03-14-2008, 06:02 PM Well thanks. The photography is not very exciting, its just documenting a museum piece that I've written about. The article has been accepted, but they havent even seen the photos. It sort of feels like work to have to take the photos using digital (they said they preferred it), but I'm not complaining. Not because my photos will be published (anyone's photos of the object would suffice, and they said so), but because they are helping my writing get published. Its all very ironic, I havent even tried to publish my photos, I've been shooting film for 40 years and yet here I am, my first d***** images ever will get published. It doesnt seem right. But I can probably use the d****** camera for future science/natural history that doesnt really warrant large format. I dont see using it for anything else, no portraits, no art. no landscapes. I dont see ever printing from files. Phew!
But I was worried for a few minutes when I took it out of the box. I'm already bleary-eyed from reading the directions.
Wayne
No! You must stop this non-film nonsense immediately! There is no advantage to digital whatsoever. Next thing you know you will be fixing images in that blasphemous contraption called Photoshop. Who does that Adobe guy think he is anyway, trying to give us the power to alter and fix images without the heavenly scent of fixer?
Beware of these digital cameras too. Some of them have what look like metal bodies on the outside, but I know they are plastic on the inside! Take that old D1X for example. Nikon used some sort of new age trickery to create that cold, metal-like feeling on the outside of the body. I'm going to prove to the world how cheaply made it is by shooting a few more hundred thousand pictures with it until it collapses into the plastic abomination it truely is. I know I'm almost halfway there. I can feel it.
p.s. Feel free to toss that digital contraption you purchased in my garbage can. I'll see to it that it never again tarnishes the hand of another film-using brother or sister. :) No! You must stop this non-film nonsense immediately! There is no advantage to digital whatsoever. Next thing you know you will be fixing images in that blasphemous contraption called Photoshop. Who does that Adobe guy think he is anyway, trying to give us the power to alter and fix images without the heavenly scent of fixer?
Beware of these digital cameras too. Some of them have what look like metal bodies on the outside, but I know they are plastic on the inside! Take that old D1X for example. Nikon used some sort of new age trickery to create that cold, metal-like feeling on the outside of the body. I'm going to prove to the world how cheaply made it is by shooting a few more hundred thousand pictures with it until it collapses into the plastic abomination it truely is. I know I'm almost halfway there. I can feel it.
p.s. Feel free to toss that digital contraption you purchased in my garbage can. I'll see to it that it never again tarnishes the hand of another film-using brother or sister. :)
WORDS OF WISDOM !!!! Andrew Moxom 03-14-2008, 06:51 PM There appears to be a disturance in the force young skywalker. The dark side within you is. JosephineIsJosephine 03-14-2008, 07:05 PM sorry, but ... LOL!
you made my day!
:) Christopher Walrath 03-15-2008, 12:22 PM There appears to be a disturance in the force young skywalker. The dark side within you is.
{asthma} If he could be turned, he would become a powerful ally. {more respiratory distress and gagging}
Hey, Wayne. This is still your chance to go beyond merely documenting your subject. Get up with the curator. See if there is a way that you can get some private time to work with your subject. Try to portray it in a light that will accentuate you article. Don't just snapshoot it. That's not what we're about. Even if you gotta use d******, do it right, man. Knock it outta the park. milkplus-mesto 03-18-2008, 01:48 PM I started with a digital SLR, then I moved towards film - i've now got more film equipment than I have digital. Being young, I don't see too much wrong with digital, apart from getting lost in the sheer volume of it.
Keep doing what you love, shooting film. Marco B 03-19-2008, 06:45 AM apart from getting lost in the sheer volume of it.
Well, apart from being lost, I once read an article in a photo magazine discussing the latest d****** model of some brand being capable of shooting "10 frames / s" or so...
That may sound nice :rolleyes:, until you realize, as the author of the article did, that the supposedly high 100.000 shots life time of the camera's shutter, that was also being boosted, would mean a shutter break-down in just 1.5(!) day if you would keep the shutter release button down continuously... :D
Just shows what crap they are trying to sell us... :p
My webpage (http://www.boeringa.demon.nl) kameranerd.com 03-19-2008, 07:12 AM I love to take pictures of my cameras with my dslr, but i would never leave the house with that dslr in my hand, think if anyone could see me :) |