hi there ...

last night i processed some film
tri x , plus x and foma 100 and a hand full of 4x5 ...

everything looked ok when i processed it
and i used my usual developer
eyeballed-coffee+soda+vitimin c + a healthy dump of
straight ansco 130 ...

i was very surprised when i scannned proofed plus x film.
i always scan in color and i invert / adjust the levels
a tiny bit. something didn't look right, so i just auto leveled
(something i never do ) to see what the machine guessed i wanted.

and to my surprise they came out in color.

does anyone know what happened to my film ?
i have to look at some of the other strips
i was eager to see what my tri color experiments looked like
so i grabbed 1 strip ... now i have to look at the rest! because
the frames i DID NOT use filters on look like i shot them with
expired provia :)

the sandles in the gallery was the first one i noticed was in color.
the one i have attached is green leaves and trees behind our house.

thanks!

john

You obviously didn't get a color image from the film. What other conclusion can be made other than the scanner is introducing unwanted artifacts?

John,
How do the negatives look?

the negatives are contrasty + stained negatives ...
( like they usually look ) ...

john

You discovered a new art form.

From what I understand caffenol/folgernol negatives are stained brown-ish - my guess is your software saw brown (as opposed to greyscale) and assumed it was in colour and tried to compensate accordingly.

I have had similar issues occasionally with files scanned from green-tinted XP2 or Chinese B&W C-41 film - the software assumes it is in colour because it's green, and sometimes odd tints/compensation can result until a B&W/greyscale conversion happens.

I have the answer:- Buy an enlarger:D:D:D:D

Regards Paul.

I have the answer:- Buy an enlarger:D:D:D:D

Regards Paul.


Now that's the best answer! There is nothing quite like the feeling one gets with a well done wet print.

Maybe you got an accidental duotone, the equivalent of split-toning on a negative? It looks like your highlights and your shadows are not of the same colors, like a split-toned print.

I have the answer:- Buy an enlarger:D:D:D:D

Regards Paul.

i've got 3 of'em ;)
just make proofs before i spend time in the dark

From what I understand caffenol/folgernol negatives are stained brown-ish - my guess is your software saw brown (as opposed to greyscale) and assumed it was in colour and tried to compensate accordingly.

I have had similar issues occasionally with files scanned from green-tinted XP2 or Chinese B&W C-41 film - the software assumes it is in colour because it's green, and sometimes odd tints/compensation can result until a B&W/greyscale conversion happens.

hey mabman

the film stain is
brownish from the caffenol + bromide
2 or 3 frames on the entire 72 frame roll
got the colorized treatment ...

thanks!
john

my guess is that you have something of a minor split tone going on... there will ALWAYS be some degree of that, however minor. I used to do that with Polaroid 55 neg film... print it on color paper - and you'd get a lovely subtle split... auto leveling HEAVILY magnifies any subtlety of effect...

Q: you don't do any fancy stuff with curves when you invert the neg scan? I've found that I've had to do some really crazy non-linear curvage when trying to actually mimic a traditional print. Meaning - a straight inversion can't really capture the tonality of a print. I guess what's actually going on is mimicking the characteristic curve of the paper/dev combo...

John,
I have a scan of an old glass plate that came out surprisingly well toned in color though it was a silver emulsion. The computer makes stuff up, it's as simple as that. Another reason not to trust 'em.