View Full Version : Film/digital hybrid cameras


ajuk
08-17-2008, 07:59 AM
I think they are a good idea, I think its a shame there was never a 35mm camera like the Kodak Advantix Preview camera. With the low prices those tiny little Contax APS high end cameras go for I find it a shame XP2 isn't made in APS.


Or how about a system where by a digi compact can be plugged into a MF cameras flash sync so a photographer can check if anybody blinked. ;) Why has no one done that, I would have thought that would be in Fuji's interest to do that.


There was also an Olympus camera that could print onto Polaroids shame that didn't catch on, are there anymore examples?

ajuk
08-18-2008, 05:17 PM
No interest in my Fuji MF eye camera idea then!

mabman
08-18-2008, 06:01 PM
Or how about a system where by a digi compact can be plugged into a MF cameras flash sync so a photographer can check if anybody blinked. ;) Why has no one done that...


Because if I wanted to haul around something larger, awkward and ungainly I'd be using a view camera ;) Kidding, kidding...

But seriously, just the thought of attaching something else (somehow) to the prism of my Kiev 60 and hauling it around makes me shudder, not mention throwing off the balance of my folders, and the awkwardness of something with a WLF.

AgX
08-18-2008, 07:40 PM
ajuk,

APS-films are made on a different base material plus a magnetic layer being coated.

We can't expect IlfordPhoto to start such an endeavure.

ajuk
08-19-2008, 02:01 PM
Because if I wanted to haul around something larger, awkward and ungainly I'd be using a view camera ;) Kidding, kidding...

But seriously, just the thought of attaching something else (somehow) to the prism of my Kiev 60 and hauling it around makes me shudder, not mention throwing off the balance of my folders, and the awkwardness of something with a WLF.

I thought it would be good for wedding togs thats all!

ajuk,

APS-films are made on a different base material plus a magnetic layer being coated.

We can't expect IlfordPhoto to start such an endeavure.
Shame if only the Kodak APS film didn't have the brown base.

TheDreadPirateRobins
08-19-2008, 02:43 PM
No interest in my Fuji MF eye camera idea then!

No lack of interest, I just don't get it. Do you have a diagram of what you are talking about? I am a visual and hands-on person. I have a hard time learning something only through a text description.

ajuk
08-19-2008, 04:44 PM
Well my idea is that someone could make a normal digital camera that has a plug in it, the camera could be then attached to a MF or LF camera via the flash sync socket so it can take a photo at the exact same time the film camera does.

David Brown
08-19-2008, 04:56 PM
I thought it would be good for wedding togs thats all!

Wedding "togs" ?? are shooting digital for the most part. The high end ones still shooting film are not going to haul around a separate digital camera just in case someone blinks. I could be wrong ...

ajuk
08-19-2008, 05:22 PM
Well they are basically pocket cameras, and the fact no camera that can do this exists probably accelerated the digital switch.

TheDreadPirateRobins
08-19-2008, 07:36 PM
Well my idea is that someone could make a normal digital camera that has a plug in it, the camera could be then attached to a MF or LF camera via the flash sync socket so it can take a photo at the exact same time the film camera does.

So... it's not simply an additional digital back for the same lens. One would need to have some sort of bracket to be sure that both were pointed in the same place.

This doesn't sound like a difficult thing for a competent manufacturer to build.

ajuk
08-20-2008, 05:22 AM
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/272777-REG/Bogen_Manfrotto_482LCD_482LCD_Micro_Ball_Head.html

gr82bart
08-20-2008, 06:52 AM
I think Leica had the right idea with the Digital Module R back for the R8 and R9 slr film bodies. To me though, that back was way too big and bulky when I saw it at a Photo Plus Expo several years ago. They've taken it off the market now, but I wish they spent some time on R&D to develop a smaller back.

Regards, Art.

Lopaka
08-20-2008, 08:45 AM
As far back as 10 years ago. high volume portrait shooters were using MF with 70mm long rolls synched with a small vidcam so they could do instant proofing. As soon as the sitting was complete, they transferred the digi proofs to a computer in another room where a salesperson put them up on the monitor so they could make selections and sell the order. IIRC, this was not an inexpensive set-up and was used primarily by high volume studios, like those doing graduation pics under contract and church directories. I believe most of these have converted to pure digi by now.

Bob

dmr
08-20-2008, 09:03 PM
I would LOVE to have a camera for which digital is one "film" option. I honestly can't think of why this has not been produced. (Yes I know of the DMR, and other than the obvious coincidence it does not appeal to me. It would be like carrying around a boat anchor!)

The one thing that intrigued me was that vaporware digital film. Never made it to market, although they did have a fair amount of hype about it a while back.

Oh well ...

ajuk
08-23-2008, 07:43 PM
Probably they needed to do it like that then, I think my idea is a bit simpler.

AgX
08-24-2008, 04:55 AM
The one thing that intrigued me was that vaporware digital film. Never made it to market, although they did have a fair amount of hype about it a while back.

What would that be? A software creating a film-look? Could you explain it in more detail?

AutumnJazz
08-24-2008, 08:37 AM
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0109/01091702siliconfilmvaporizes.asp

AgX
08-24-2008, 04:30 PM
Thus a selfsustained CMOS sensor chip, A/D-converter and memory, all encaspsuled in a cartridge compatibel in dimensions with a type 135 cartridge, and with the sensor mounted on a strip resembling a protruding film leader.
However, the sensor is not full format.

An interesting idea.

AutumnJazz
08-24-2008, 05:09 PM
I think it was stupid, and I'm somewhat glad it failed. It would have been interesting if it was full frame, and had decent storage. Who cares anymore, current digital cameras probably cost as much as it would, and offer more...(Although I guess it could be useful for Leicas.)

AgX
08-24-2008, 06:09 PM
Precise. That’s the point, you could use it on any 35mm. (As there are people who prefer a camera quite different from a Nikon f or Canon EOS.)
Or rather one should use it, as that system seemed to have quite some compatiblity problems.
Which I don’t understand, as one could design it that way that the only limiting factor would have been the maximum recede of the film pressure plate.

ajuk
08-29-2008, 07:34 AM
Would it fit into a Stylus Epic?

AutumnJazz
08-29-2008, 01:04 PM
It doesn't exist.


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