tiberiustibz
09-23-2008, 05:45 PM
I'm debating mixing a bleach at home to use in my C41 process. Can someone give me a comparison/rundown on the differences?
All I need to do is remove the silver, either into halide or some other salt. I don't want to pay an arm and a leg either. What's the difference between say dichromate bleach and ferricyanide bleach? Which is better for my purpose?
I've looked at Ferric EDTA but it's expensive.
nworth
10-05-2008, 04:38 PM
PE is the expert on Kodak bleaches, and he may yet post the definitive word. I have heard that an alternative ferricyanide bleach is approved for use with C-41, but I do not have its formula. Here is the formula for SR-34, one of the alternative bleaches used for the ECN-2 motion picture negative process. There is no guarantee that it would be suitable for C-41, but the two processes are generally similar. For home use, you can probably eliminate the mold inhibitor and chelating agent.
Kodak SR-34 bleach
Alternate bleach for Process ECN-2 for motion picture negative films (Potassium “UL House” bleach)
Water (21 – 38C) 700 ml
Proxel GXL 0.07 ml (mold inhibitor)
Kodak Chelating Agent No. 1 30.6 g
Potassium hydroxide (45%) 42.7 ml
Potassium bromide (anh) 51.5 g
Acetic acid (Glacial) 7.65 ml
Ferric nitrate (nonahydrate) 35.7 g
Water to make 1 l
pH at 25C = 5.30; density = 1.070; total iron (ferric only) 5.1 g/l
Bleach motion picture film 3 minutes at 27C
Photo Engineer
10-05-2008, 05:42 PM
That bleach is just fine but watch out for retained iron (ferric hydroxide), if you go into the bleach from the developer. The alkali carryover can cause a problem. I would suggest a mild 2% Acetic Acid stop and a short wash.
Almost any rehalogenizing ferricyanide bleach will work but you must use a sulfite containing stop bath and a wash before a ferricyanide bleach. Otherwise, the oxidation of color developer carried into the bleach can cause a very very high stain.
PE