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lxdude
07-13-2011, 03:38 PM
Always take care of your pet peeve. If you do not then PETA will come after you for neglecting a pet.



That's the thing about peeves. People just keep petting them and petting them and they never go away!;)

wildbillbugman
07-14-2011, 11:35 AM
I will hold up the DVD then. On your head be it! :D :D :D

Oh, and you are an old Fert, whatever that is! (you asked for it!) :D

PE[/QUOTE]

I can't do anything about being an Old Fert. But I think that"One word can be worth a thousand Pictures." By using an e instead of an a, I was trying to be "nice". A:devil:gainst my nature.:ninja::bandit::devil:

Photo Engineer
07-15-2011, 06:58 PM
Bill;

I've thought about this for a day or so since you suggested that the book be released first. I see your reasoning but I would like to bring to your attention the fact that you have seen all parts of my course, and this may be influencing your POV. For those who are wavering about homemade emulsions, perhaps the disk will be valuable to them, as much so as the book.

PE

wildbillbugman
07-15-2011, 07:47 PM
Yes Ron,
I will admit that you have a good argument there. But I will say that anyone who depends entirely on the DVD and dose not read the book, would be doing himself a disservice. Personaly, I would rather visualize from a well written book than see "the real thing". But then, I was a poet 30 years befor I picked up a camera.
Bill

michaelbsc
07-15-2011, 08:32 PM
This is available (now that I have my insurance fixed up and now that I have incorporated), but it is a bit pricey! :D

Only, you come here! :D

PE

How pricy? It might be worth it. You'd be shocked at how much I could sponge up with two weeks one-on-one.

Photo Engineer
07-15-2011, 08:40 PM
Please contact me for details.

PE

Kirk Keyes
07-15-2011, 11:44 PM
Yes Ron,
I will admit that you have a good argument there. But I will say that anyone who depends entirely on the DVD and dose not read the book, would be doing himself a disservice. Personaly, I would rather visualize from a well written book than see "the real thing". But then, I was a poet 30 years befor I picked up a camera.
Bill

I agree with Bill - the video is like icing on the cake, with the book being the cake.

I would sell them together as a pair, at least initially, or price them so that it's not that much more to get them both compared to individually. They need to be seen as a set.

I've seen the video (and a version of the book from a couple years ago) and it's good and quite usefull for seeing how thing's are done and how to set stuff up, but without the details and theory in the book, the student may well be able to make an emulsion, but they will not know many of the reasons as to why they are doing certain steps.

Athiril
07-16-2011, 08:37 AM
I agree with Bill - the video is like icing on the cake, with the book being the cake.

I would sell them together as a pair, at least initially, or price them so that it's not that much more to get them both compared to individually. They need to be seen as a set.

I've seen the video (and a version of the book from a couple years ago) and it's good and quite usefull for seeing how thing's are done and how to set stuff up, but without the details and theory in the book, the student may well be able to make an emulsion, but they will not know many of the reasons as to why they are doing certain steps.


Here is a picture of a cake I made a few days ago, icing can make the whole cake.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/267702_10150262047367661_611887660_7318687_8311822 _n.jpg

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 10:22 AM
Ok, ok, I give up. They go out together. Thanks for the feedback.

PE

Hexavalent
07-16-2011, 10:27 AM
Ok, ok, I give up. They go out together. Thanks for the feedback.

PE
Does that mean that Athiril's tasty looking cake comes with the book/DVD? :D

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 10:33 AM
Not unless he sends me one. ;)

PE

wildbillbugman
07-16-2011, 11:45 AM
Good Lord Mustafa,
You set high bars! And you do it frequently. I would hate to work for a company owned by you. But then mabe it would be fun.

I have made a deliberate descission that color film/emulsions will never be on my list of "things to do". I have plenty to do with a panchro emulsion suitable for color seps.
Bill

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 12:07 PM
On my "to do" list after the book is finished:

1. High speed panchromatic emulsion (ISO 100 - 400) I have been trying with poor results, but I have a new setup as shown in other threads.

2. Color print material based on dye bleach. I have shown a single layer magenta in another thread and passed a sample around to the students at the last workshop at GEH.

3. A new book and maybe a DVD on the above along with advanced precipitation methods and mixing.

PE

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 01:01 PM
Umut;

I have posted the spectra of the dyes in a thread with the words in the title "love hate". I have lost the URL for it here on APUG. But, I assure you that I have no intention of duplicating Kodachrome. It would take a genuine coating machine as shown here on APUG and it would have to be considerably different than the one shown.

As for APUG taking time, well, I run Word here and my browser so it is easy to edit and flip back and forth. I also take time away from the screen to take walks, exercise and swim, so I am not always here.

Of course, many people have said that I am not all here! ;) (English slang expression for being somewhat crazy)

PE

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 02:19 PM
Color paper using Kodachrome chemistry is difficult to do with the modern process due to the difficulty of exposing the bottom layer to red light. The support blocks the light. Color papers based on Kodachrome would require the use of the old differential bleach process.

Using Kodachrome dyes for dye transfer would require modification to add a sulfonic acid or other ionic group to allow mordanting. In any event, only the cyan would be needed to get a Kodachrome like effect. Dye bleach is far easier due to the ease of purchasing the dyes and other chemicals needed.

PE

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 06:31 PM
Umut;

ANY paper product based on Kodachrome would be difficult and would require at least 9 emulsions in at least 6 layers minimum. The same coating structure and emulsion configuration is needed for paper. The E6 process cannot be used without substantial modifications.

The Kodachrome dye can be made by dissolving the coupler in alkali and adding a color developer. Then you add an oxidant such as peroxide. The dye forms and then you extract the dye with an extraction method of some sort and recrystallize the pure dye. This dye can then be used for other purposes. If you have attached a sulfonic acid group, then it is ideal for making dye transfers, but the dye stability will not be very good as compared to the real dye transfer or the real Kodachrome.

Due to the added sulfonic acid group, the hue will also change.

PE

Athiril
07-16-2011, 08:14 PM
Not unless he sends me one. ;)

PE

I'd be happy to send you a cake :laugh:

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 08:17 PM
Does it have a prize in it like a plum pudding? Maybe a silver coin or a Super Hero toy. Either would do! :D

PE

Athiril
07-16-2011, 08:20 PM
How about a Nikola Tesla figurine? :)

We used to have the silver coin thing at Christmas.

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 09:47 PM
Well, frankly, I like authentic plum podding better than chocolate cake. More flavor. But here, we called it "Johnny Bull Pudding".

Anyhow, I really cannot eat desserts anymore as I am trying to reduce. Thanks Dan!

:D

PE