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lxdude
07-13-2011, 03:17 PM
I know, it was an oblique shameless plug

Which is better by far than an oblique shameless pug. A woman I worked with had one. The sneaky little bug-eyed screw-tailed mutt thought the world was his urinal!:blink:

Oh, sorry.

Just a "pet" peeve.:pouty:;)

Photo Engineer
07-13-2011, 03:31 PM
Y'know, the worst part about this is that I know what I did to deserve this! It all seems to have started when I bought a Mustang!

:D

PE

lxdude
07-13-2011, 03:32 PM
:laugh::laugh:

lxdude
07-13-2011, 03:38 PM
Always take care of your pet peeve. If you do not then PETA will come after you for neglecting a pet.



That's the thing about peeves. People just keep petting them and petting them and they never go away!;)

wildbillbugman
07-14-2011, 11:35 AM
I will hold up the DVD then. On your head be it! :D :D :D

Oh, and you are an old Fert, whatever that is! (you asked for it!) :D

PE[/QUOTE]

I can't do anything about being an Old Fert. But I think that"One word can be worth a thousand Pictures." By using an e instead of an a, I was trying to be "nice". A:devil:gainst my nature.:ninja::bandit::devil:

Photo Engineer
07-15-2011, 06:58 PM
Bill;

I've thought about this for a day or so since you suggested that the book be released first. I see your reasoning but I would like to bring to your attention the fact that you have seen all parts of my course, and this may be influencing your POV. For those who are wavering about homemade emulsions, perhaps the disk will be valuable to them, as much so as the book.

PE

wildbillbugman
07-15-2011, 07:47 PM
Yes Ron,
I will admit that you have a good argument there. But I will say that anyone who depends entirely on the DVD and dose not read the book, would be doing himself a disservice. Personaly, I would rather visualize from a well written book than see "the real thing". But then, I was a poet 30 years befor I picked up a camera.
Bill

michaelbsc
07-15-2011, 08:32 PM
This is available (now that I have my insurance fixed up and now that I have incorporated), but it is a bit pricey! :D

Only, you come here! :D

PE

How pricy? It might be worth it. You'd be shocked at how much I could sponge up with two weeks one-on-one.

Photo Engineer
07-15-2011, 08:40 PM
Please contact me for details.

PE

Kirk Keyes
07-15-2011, 11:44 PM
Yes Ron,
I will admit that you have a good argument there. But I will say that anyone who depends entirely on the DVD and dose not read the book, would be doing himself a disservice. Personaly, I would rather visualize from a well written book than see "the real thing". But then, I was a poet 30 years befor I picked up a camera.
Bill

I agree with Bill - the video is like icing on the cake, with the book being the cake.

I would sell them together as a pair, at least initially, or price them so that it's not that much more to get them both compared to individually. They need to be seen as a set.

I've seen the video (and a version of the book from a couple years ago) and it's good and quite usefull for seeing how thing's are done and how to set stuff up, but without the details and theory in the book, the student may well be able to make an emulsion, but they will not know many of the reasons as to why they are doing certain steps.

Athiril
07-16-2011, 08:37 AM
I agree with Bill - the video is like icing on the cake, with the book being the cake.

I would sell them together as a pair, at least initially, or price them so that it's not that much more to get them both compared to individually. They need to be seen as a set.

I've seen the video (and a version of the book from a couple years ago) and it's good and quite usefull for seeing how thing's are done and how to set stuff up, but without the details and theory in the book, the student may well be able to make an emulsion, but they will not know many of the reasons as to why they are doing certain steps.


Here is a picture of a cake I made a few days ago, icing can make the whole cake.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/267702_10150262047367661_611887660_7318687_8311822 _n.jpg

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 10:22 AM
Ok, ok, I give up. They go out together. Thanks for the feedback.

PE

Hexavalent
07-16-2011, 10:27 AM
Ok, ok, I give up. They go out together. Thanks for the feedback.

PE
Does that mean that Athiril's tasty looking cake comes with the book/DVD? :D

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 10:33 AM
Not unless he sends me one. ;)

PE

Mustafa Umut Sarac
07-16-2011, 11:23 AM
Ron ,

Will you begin to kodachrome like film project after book is done ? I dont want to start a thread and no mouse stirring from your side also.
I read the archives and it was a beatiful start up.

Umut

wildbillbugman
07-16-2011, 11:45 AM
Good Lord Mustafa,
You set high bars! And you do it frequently. I would hate to work for a company owned by you. But then mabe it would be fun.

I have made a deliberate descission that color film/emulsions will never be on my list of "things to do". I have plenty to do with a panchro emulsion suitable for color seps.
Bill

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 12:07 PM
On my "to do" list after the book is finished:

1. High speed panchromatic emulsion (ISO 100 - 400) I have been trying with poor results, but I have a new setup as shown in other threads.

2. Color print material based on dye bleach. I have shown a single layer magenta in another thread and passed a sample around to the students at the last workshop at GEH.

3. A new book and maybe a DVD on the above along with advanced precipitation methods and mixing.

PE

Mustafa Umut Sarac
07-16-2011, 12:53 PM
Ron ,

New book is a great idea and in addition everyone can buy a bw film or color paper but kodachrome is gone. You are the one who will able to resurrect the kodachrome. May be you keep my wish and write.
May be forum is not the best place and offtrack and keep you busy and tired and you so, can write articles on it. Please have think about it. And I read your advises on kodachome ink jet projects and I found how excellent advises you gave.
Do you have spectrums about kodachrome dyes ? I want to learn more about them.

Thank you ,

Umut

Photo Engineer
07-16-2011, 01:01 PM
Umut;

I have posted the spectra of the dyes in a thread with the words in the title "love hate". I have lost the URL for it here on APUG. But, I assure you that I have no intention of duplicating Kodachrome. It would take a genuine coating machine as shown here on APUG and it would have to be considerably different than the one shown.

As for APUG taking time, well, I run Word here and my browser so it is easy to edit and flip back and forth. I also take time away from the screen to take walks, exercise and swim, so I am not always here.

Of course, many people have said that I am not all here! ;) (English slang expression for being somewhat crazy)

PE

Mustafa Umut Sarac
07-16-2011, 01:29 PM
Ron ,

My last post about Kodachrome. Is it possible to make a color print paper , transparency to positive paper , may be for contact printing , a kodachrome dyes using paper , may be it would run parallel with your color paper target.
Or can we do dye transfer system which runs with kodachrome dyes. You said me it was possible to use coupler + developer for extracting dye. May be , we could use this mixture without extraction. Its water based and water evoprates with heated air and dye remains on paper.

What do you say ?

Thank you very much ,

Umut